Political nobody wins SC Democratic US Senate nomination in strangest political upset of the year.

The guy went from being Air Force intelligence to Army supply… not looking good for his intelligence level. Then he was forcably “honorably” discharged from the Army. Yeah, he’s a real keeper.

My gut feel is that someone is protesting the voting machines - either the machines themselves or the process of machines and no voter trails, etc. I think he is a dupe for someone who is milking this for a while before the other shoe drops.

Oh? Is that in the constitution? Is there a mental acuity requirement for holding a national office? Nope.

If there were, there should also be tests given to each voter prior to being allowed to cast a ballot. Maybe the candidates names shouldn’t even be on the ballot, only their platform. This result just proves even more that the electorate is stupid, and should not have a vote. Name recognition is the reason there are so many incumbents, people are too stupid to pay attention to campaigns, platforms, ideas… They just pull the lever (press the button, punch the chad) for whatever name the recognize most.

Any way, strange I didn’t even hear about him, since I’m in the same town as he is. In any event, I’d actually love to see him win, and end up on some interesting committee in DC. Might shake things up a bit, and you can’t lower the collective IQ of the Federal Government no matter what you do to them.

There’s still no real evidence for electoral shenanigans. Right now the best evidence is that most people didn’t know who Rawl was, some didn’t like him, and the rest just didn’t give a crap and wound up voting for Greene.

No evidence ,but it is such an anomaly that it is easy to question it.

It’s easy to question it, I agree. And I can’t totally rule out something fishy. But since Rawl and others are claiming something dirty went down, at some point they need to provide actual evidence.

I suspect a glitch, if anything. Maybe the people who didn’t vote for either candidate had their vote go to Greene.

I find it amazing that they have electronic voting without a paper trail. How could anyone with even the tiniest shred of sanity think that this would be a good idea?

South Carolina, need we say more?

Maybe they can look at the paper trail…

… and we made the Daily Show. :frowning:

Indeed. Jon Stewart was on fire last night–one of his best bits in a while. :cool: :smiley:

Well, that is sort of par for the course. The weirdest thing about the election (in my mind), was that state-wide, all lottery machines were out of service “Due to the Election” from late Monday night, through Wednesday afternoon.

Maybe we don’t actually use the ballots at all here, and just let the Pick-3/4/whatever bubblemachine determine the results?

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0615/vic-rawl-systemic-failures-south-carolina-voting/ Not a glitch but lots of them. This article says Greene got more votes than were cast in 25 counties. The paper ballots, absentee, went 68 percent to Rawl. This election reeks.

I can maybe explain away the absentee discrepancy: People with absentee ballots have a few days to fill them out, and access to resources like the Internet while they do. So when they got to the Senate race and went “Alvin Greene? Who’s that?”, they could go online and find out “Oh, he’s nobody”, and check off Rawl. But people in the voting booth couldn’t do that, so might have voted on other criteria (random selection, “anyone but Rawl”, alphabetical order, guessing race from name, whatever).

But more votes than were cast in 25 counties? That’s completely absurd. Is there any source other than a single blog for that? Because if that actually happened, then I don’t know what South Carolina had last week, but it sure wasn’t an election.

The article gonzo linked to credits (without a link) Brad’s Blog. I can’t find that statement there.

I did find Spartanburg County results here. Precinct level results are available as a download from the “Reports” tab. These results apparently do not include absentee ballots. Nothing looks fishy to me.

Now as to the trustworthiness of the voting machines, I won’t hazard a guess, but I will chime in on the side of those who are saying that a electronic voting machine without a paper trail isn’t worth the paper it’s not printed on.

No, it doesn’t say that:

It claims that in ONE county, Spartanburg, there were 25 precincts in which Greene received more votes than were actually cast.

But that’s not true:



						Greene	Greene	Rawl	Rawl
Precinct				Regis.	E.Day	Total	E.Day	Total 	Total
					Voters	votes	votes	votes	votes
Woodruff Armory Drive Fire Station	1210	15	15	7	7	22
Arcadia Elementary			807	11	11	3	3	14
Rebirth Missionary Baptist		2933	39	39	18	18	57
Arrowood Baptist			485	9	9	3	3	12
Friendship Baptist			3282	24	24	16	16	40
Mt. Sinai Baptist			1904	33	33	22	22	55
Boiling Springs 9th Grade		2764	23	23	18	18	41
Gable Middle School			2830	46	46	30	30	76
Lake Bowen Baptist			3265	25	25	23	23	48
Cooley Springs Baptist			2259	19	19	12	12	31
Landrum High School			2239	15	15	16	16	31
Hendrix Elementary			3218	58	58	26	26	84
Canaan Baptist				1006	20	20	15	15	35
Cannons Elementary			1124	20	20	14	14	34
Cavins Hobbysville			876	7	7	6	6	13
E.P. Todd Elementary			2132	55	55	35	35	90
Cherokee Springs Fire Station		1594	11	11	8	8	19
Chesnee Senior Center			2199	20	20	17	17	37
Clifdale Elementary			836	10	10	14	14	24
Converse Fire Station			1076	14	14	8	8	22
Cowpens Fire Station			1721	16	16	9	9	25
Woodruff Fire Station			1084	8	8	7	7	15
Cross Anchor Fire Station		755	19	19	5	5	24
North Spartanburg Fire Station		2182	26	26	18	18	44
Abner Creek Baptist			971	4	4	7	7	11
Drayton Fire Station			1310	18	18	13	13	31
Grace Baptist				1243	26	26	12	12	38
Cedar Grove Baptist			1411	45	45	27	27	72
Enoree First Baptist			1239	23	23	17	17	40
Fairforest Middle School		2465	34	34	11	11	45
Travelers Rest Baptist			2661	64	64	30	30	94
Glendale Fire Station			1382	17	17	9	9	26
Gramling Methodist			1384	7	7	9	9	16
Hayne Baptist	1282			10	10	11	11	21
Holly Springs Baptist			2273	12	12	12	12	24
Chapman High School			2429	52	52	17	17	69
Landrum United Methodist		2828	23	23	13	13	36
Lyman Town Hall				2744	43	43	19	19	62
Mayo Elementary				1685	7	7	13	13	20
Motlow Creek Baptist			906	13	13	8	8	21
R.D. Anderson Vocational		1470	26	26	10	10	36
Swofford Career Center			2594	23	23	20	20	43
T.W. Edwards Recreation Center		1503	26	26	18	18	44
Pacolet Town Hall			817	20	20	8	8	28
Pauline Glenn Springs Elementary	1011	14	14	7	7	21
Pelham Fire Station			1089	13	13	18	18	31
Poplar Springs Fire Station		2158	25	25	19	19	44
Powell Saxon Una Fire Station		1151	42	42	13	13	55
Reidville Elementary			2609	37	37	17	17	54
Roebuck Elementary			2433	72	72	32	32	104
Mt. Moriah Baptist			1597	62	62	35	35	97
C.C. Woodson Recreation			1441	56	56	30	30	86
Pine Street Elementary			1342	19	19	35	35	54
Trinity Methodist			1666	14	14	31	31	45
Southside Baptist			1318	40	40	27	27	67
Spartanburg High School			2427	34	34	55	55	89
Cornerstone Baptist			1536	47	47	36	36	83
Park Hills Elementary			1171	62	62	33	33	95
Silverhill United Methodist		624	28	28	13	13	41
Woodland Heights Recreation Center	2087	39	39	28	28	67
West Side Baptist			2081	52	52	28	28	80
Beaumont Methodist			659	4	4	6	6	10
Cleveland Elementary			2042	52	52	16	16	68
Ebenezer Baptist			947	41	41	22	22	63
Startex Fire Station			1011	32	32	6	6	38
Una Fire				471	11	11	8	8	19
Victor Mill Methodist			1778	24	24	17	17	41
Mt. Calvary Presbyterian		2370	18	18	17	17	35
Wellford Fire				2473	64	64	29	29	93
West View Elementary			3446	34	34	46	46	80
Croft Baptist				1120	23	23	14	14	37
Whitlock Jr. High			1369	13	13	12	12	25
Bethany Baptist				1328	33	33	6	6	39
Woodruff Town Hall			1917	48	48	22	22	70
Woodruff American Legion		671	23	23	10	10	33
Eastside Baptist			1413	21	21	34	34	55
Mt. Zion Full Gospel Baptist		774	19	19	15	15	34
Jesse Bobo Elementary			1775	82	82	31	31	113
White Stone Methodist			953	16	16	10	10	26
Cudd Memorial				1363	25	25	14	14	39
Oakland Elementary			1977	9	9	7	7	16
Boiling Springs Intermediate		2794	51	51	28	28	79
Carlisle Fosters Grove			1637	9	9	11	11	20
Cowpens Depot Museum			1196	17	17	13	13	30
Beech Springs Intermediate		1697	22	22	18	18	40
Inman Mills Baptist			1958	23	23	11	11	34
Bethany Wesleyan			2074	23	23	16	16	39
Reidville Fire Station			3163	43	43	15	15	58
Roebuck Bethlehem			1363	31	31	21	21	52
Jesse Boyd Elementary			1515	30	30	27	27	57
Anderson Mill Elementary		3777	63	63	33	33	96
Daniel Morgan Technology Center		1261	19	19	31	31	50
Boiling Springs Elementary		2353	18	18	12	12	30
Boiling Springs Jr. High		873	9	9	3	3	12
Chapman Elementary			1938	27	27	12	12	39
Mountain View Baptist			1087	9	9	2	2	11
Boiling Springs High School		1069	11	11	8	8	19
Ben Avon Methodist			1273	19	19	16	16	35
Absentee				0	117	117	81	81	198
Emergency				0	0	0	0	0	0
Failsafe				0	16	16	4	4	20
Provisional				0	0	0	0	0	0
Failsafe Provisional			0	2	2	0	0	2
Totals:					167004	2843	2843	1795	1795	4638



From SC - Election Results

Follow links to “By county” and download results in Excel format.

Comments?

Yes.

Ha, ha, beat you because I was too lazy to put the download in my post. :cool:

:smiley: freakin tabs get me every time…

It took me awhile to find, because The Brad Blog’s layout seems to have been inspired by Angelfire, but here’s Rawls’ campaign manager, as reported in this Politico story:

:eek: (if true)

I don’t see anywhere that he claimed Greene received more votes than were cast in 25 counties, so I think that blog is mistaken.

http://www2.counton2.com/cbd/news/state_regional/state_regional_govtpolitics/article/rawl_files_protest_of_tuesdays_election_results/146706/ Here is 538 story about malfunctioning machines.

Maybe. But Bradblog has been covering the voter machine irregularities for several years. The SC race was a horrible statistical anomaly. You can not reconcile it with math or defend with logic. It made no sense. The absentee ballots, which can be verified , were hugely in favor of Rawl. Lets face it, something is rotten in that election.