I’m sure she knows the rules but doesn’t care.
Depends on my mood :D:mad:
I’ll start by answering the original question: certainly. It’s just being polite.
A female friend asked me not to say “squaw” in her presence (she’s American Indian). No biggie. I wouldn’t talk about spiders in front of a friend who’s terrified of them, discuss death in front of a friend whose spouse is dying of cancer, or say “sand-nigger” in front of an Arab friend (not that I’d say it anyway). This is a simple, polite request that it’s simply boorish not to honor.
The majority of the analogies in this thread are downright silly. This doesn’t compare with someone asking you not to wear tube tops, not to eat pork, or not to show your bare face. Omitting a word or phrase from your vocabulary is a trivial behavioral change. You’re not changing your actions, your clothes, your food – you’re just paraphrasing a sentence now and then.
To Diogenes the Cynic: I fail to understand your outrage. Why would an atheist even want to say “God damn it” or “Jesus H. Christ” if you don’t believe in God or Jesus? It’s like being asked to avoid taking the name of Thor in vain. Sure. No sweat. Why would you swear to, at, or on behalf of an entity you don’t believe in?
To those who mentioned the First Amendment, I hope you realize that it doesn’t apply here in any way, shape, or form, right? I can tell you that you’ll be thrown out of my home if you say the word “frammish,” and be well within my rights and the law.
What the heck is a frammish?
A randomly chosen word, I expect.
InivisbleWombat, one problem I have with your argument is that persons who make the specific request referred to in the OP are often unreasonable, because they see themselves as unquestionably on the right side in a battle between good and evil. My eldest brother has chastised me for taking God’s name in vain, and for using the word “fuck,” when we were in MY house. (Well, on my back yard.) He sees nothing wrong with such behavior, because anything mandated by the Bible (or which he can reasonably claim to be mandated by the Bible) is by definition correct.
Why didn’t you ask him to show you the Biblical passage about not saying fuck?
At the time I was resisting the urge to beat the holy crap out of him. He had been sadistically tickling my stepdaughter to the point where she was in physical pain from laughing despite her repeated requests that he leave her be.
He was expelled for ostentatioiusly and obnoxiously attempting to make his own point, (for personal gain), on government property. He was never injured for merely expressing a belief in God.
If it had been up to me, he would have had to carry the damn thing out of the building himself. To you and me, he “was never injured”. To the people he’s selling himself to, he’s a martyr for the Christian right, “destroyed” by the evil federal government.
That is contraindicated by the need to remove the monument from the builing, unless he happens to have been bitten by a radioactive arachnid. In which case there will be other problems. Anyway, that would have reinforced the martyr image he sought to create.
Precisely. I just hit a few keys and that’s what came out.
I understand, and I empathize. But that wasn’t the question. It related to a polite request to refrain from using a certain word or phrase. If a bunch of people tell me in the assholiest-possible way not to say “putz” because it’s Yiddish for penis and that offends them, I’ll probably look for ways to work it into the conversation, just to be ornery.
But when the next person asks me politely not to say it because it bothers them, I’ll go along with it.
I’ve never hit anyone for overtickling my kids, but I have stepped in the way and firmly said “She said ‘stop’ and you’ll stop NOW - got it?” Knocking his ass back a few yards and telling him to cut it out would have probably been appropriate.
My ex used to tickle me until I cried and peed myself. It’s sadistic. Anyone who finds it amusing is a sick muthahfuckah.
Lots of nice strawmen there, but my original point remains the same: I would not like to hear profanity at all…and yes “Damn” or any variant thereof includes that.
So you’re saying that “Dammit” is not a curse/swear word? Because “Dammit” and the variations thereof (I.E. “Goddammit” or “God dammit” or “God damn”), I consider cursing.
Sure. I don’t care if you say those. But anything with the word “Damn” is swearing and could be offensive to people.
Again, my point to Dio remains the same: That people asking him to please not say the word “Goddammit” around them aren’t always trying to force their religious beliefs on him. It could be that they just don’t like to hear that kind of foul language.
There’s no such word as “goddammit.”
Oh for fuck’s sake. Even irritating language maven William Safire defends “goddammit” in one of his irritating prescriptivist books. Are you just aiming for a 100% wrong rate in this thread?
A few years ago the theatre company I was working for got a letter from a patron. Apparently she was offended that in one of the plays we had just presented one of the characters took lords name in vain. She was honestly suggesting that in the future we take the offending language out.
She was suggesting that we rewrite a play to suit her sensitivities. Oddly enough we filed that letter in the big blue bin that gets emptied once a week.
Should we have to cater to the sensitivities of everyone?
Oh and BTW the play in question was shown to a number of schools and they all loved it. No complaints from the teachers.
You can say whatever you want, of course. That’s not what this thread is about.
I can’t help but notice that you didn’t really address my post you quoted, but opted instead to try and be funny. If you have to resort to poor attempts at humor, then maybe your position isn’t as strong as you’d have us believe.
Be serious for a moment. Do you really not see a difference between those two sentences?
Read the OP again and try to understand what we’re discussing.
Read what I wrote again and then ask yourself if asking me that makes any sense.
And again, this thread is about people that don’t want other people “taking the lord’s name in vain” in front of them. This thread is not about foul language in general or the OP would not be framed the way it was.
How does the above attitude jive with your posts in this thread? (about a woman who was fired because she ate pork at work)
Bolding mine.
It jibes perfectly well. She wasn’t fired “for eating pork at work,” she was fired for contaminating a halal kitchen. It wasn’t about her eating pork, per se, but about her interfering with the ability for others to practice their religion. A private company has every right to keep a halal kitchen. An employer-employee relationship is not on point with this discussion anyway. My employer would have a right to ask me not to say “God damn” at work. Terms of emplyment aren’t really valid to this discussion. That basically falls under the category of being a guest in someone else’s house.
You had to go back five years to try to find a gotcha, and you couldn’t even find one that was on point? Damn, I’m consistent.