Poverty Sucks

NOTE: This is NOT a thread asking for advice! This is a bitching and moaning thread. Advice threads have already been posted elsewhere, please do not deposit any here!

This is my Poverty Sucks Thread. It’s why and how Poverty Sucks. Please, anyone else who is currently undergoing poverty, or has had unwanted poverty thrust upon them in the past, feel free to contribute.

Poverty Sucks Because - sometimes people just don’t understand that you’re blowing off steam and pissed at things you can’t control and no, you’re not looking for advice, this time you’re looking for plain old sympathy.

Poverty Sucks Because - officious little church ladies say pious-sounding things like “you’ve learned a lot from this, haven’t you?” No, biitch, I knew poverty sucked before I was poor. I really didn’t feel a need to BE poor to confirm this.

Poverty Sucks Because - a lot of people really don’t understand that no, you do NOT have $20 (or whatever) to do XYZ because you really do have to spend that on groceries or whatever. Yes, you may actually possess a $20 bill at the moment but that doesn’t mean you are free to spend it however you like (assuming you’re at all responsible).

Poverty Sucks Because - non-poor people say shit like "but if you’re poor how were you able to afford that nice leather coat (or some other valuable object). Because I wasn’t always poor you fucking moron! Apparently they think the moment a person falls on hard times they are to trade all normal clothing for sackcloth and ashes, swap their current vehicle for something twice as old that is largely the color of primer, and otherwise LOOK poor. Heaven forbid you retain anything of any value whatsoever.

Poverty Sucks Because - there’s always some asshole who will quip something along the lines of “What the fuck is wrong with you? Why can’t you just go out and get a job?” Because it is possible to look for a job and not find one for quite some time.

Poverty Sucks Because - there’s always some do-gooder that gets pissed off because you won’t accept THEIR help on THEIR terms whether it helps or hurts you. Ya know, if I don’t happen to need that particular sort of help myself maybe you should give it to someone who really does need it.

Poverty Sucks Because - a lot of fuckwits assume you’re poor because you’re drunk or on drugs or a criminal and not simply because you were laid off a few months ago simply haven’t found a decent paying job because the sector you were working in is shedding people and you’re working scut and entry level crap again.

Poverty Sucks Because - people tell me I have to have health insurance. No, I have to eat. You can not eat health insurance. If it’s a choice between health and insurance and food I’m going with food

Poverty Sucks Because - I have to work so fucking hard. In addition to scrabbling for part-time and temp work until I get something full-time and permanent, I spend inordinate amounts of time negotiating reduced fees for important services (like health and dental care) and also winding my way through the bureaucratic mazes that surround any sort of public aid program.

Poverty Sucks Because - food pantries are not set up to accommodate people with food allergies. Granted, this hasn’t happened this time around, but I recall one time when a food pantry worker flew into a rage because I wouldn’t take the cans of spaghetti. Lady, spaghetti makes me seriously ill (tomato allergy), it’s not a matter of ingratitude. I will not accept jars of peanut butter or bags of corn meal that I can’t eat - give them to someone who can use them and don’t get pissed off at me for safe-guarding my health.

That’s it for this morning - maybe I’ll add more later. Feel free to contribute. Remember - NO ADVICE, just bitching and venting, m’kay?

Poverty Sucks Because - you have to live with twelve cousins in a three room shack without indoor plumbing, walk a quarter-mile up the mountain to get a bucket of water, and cook in rusty iron pots on a wood stove.

Poverty sucks big time. It is evil, nasty, puppy stomping bad, and we hates it.

You, on the other hand, rock big time. If my magic wand were working, I’d make everything better AND give you a vacation. But the damn thing’s been on the fritz since I got it. Stupid wand.

I’ve been out of work. I’ve worried about paying for health insurance and meds. I’ve had to borrow gas money. But I’ve never had to worry about groceries. That SUCKS. I’m sorry. I hope it gets better soon.

I relate to everything you’ve written, Broomstick, and I hope things turn around for you real soon. Notice I said I hope, because I don’t want to be that douche who spouts with false certainty that they *know * something good is going to happen. No, I fucking don’t and Pollyanna platitudes are not helpful when a person is down and out.

I also don’t need to hear how “things could be much worse” or how much I have compared to the people living in third world countries. While that may be true, it has no bearing on my day to day reality. Yes, I have a roof over my head, but due to my state’s fucked up tax and insurance situation it takes damn near every penny I make to pay for it. So no, I can’t help out the state troopers with a contribution, I can’t buy a $5 candy bar to help your son’s softball team and I can’t join you for dollar drink night.

Poverty certainly does suck :mad:

It sucks because of the prevailing attitude that we all succeed or fail on our own merits, so if you’re poor it’s because you DESERVE to be poor. So whenever you try to bitch about it, people are patronizing or mean or insulting or otherwise completely unsympathetic. You spend a week sending out a hundred resumes with carefully tailored cover letters and nobody calls you back. If you follow up with the employer (like all the job search places tell you to) then the employer bitches you out on a message board for being unprofessional. If you complain that getting a good job is nothing more than being in the right place at the right time, then people say it’s sour grapes (even though it is largely correct).

And it’s exhausting to be poor because you have to spend all kinds of time doing things non-poor people don’t have to do, like (as you mention) negotiating for discounted services, or walking to save the bus fare, or cooking rice and beans from scratch. And then when you do squeeze in some spare time you can’t do anything except stay at home or go for a walk or something. So you don’t get to have too much fun. And if you’re having a minor problem in your relationships with people you live with (common, if you’re poor) you can’t get away from each other and things escalate, which could be solved if you had more time and money and space. That part sucks huge too.

When I lived in a three room shack with twelve cousins, it was right here in the good ol’ US of A. I also don’t think minimizing the real poverty of people who can’t even afford computers or Internet access, and live a hundred miles from a library, just because you can’t relate is dismissive to the extreme. Frankly, one of the things that sucks most about poverty is hearing people better off than you complain about how bad off they are.

It sucks when the meat out the back of a truck salesmen get pissy when you tell them no I don’t want any. They insist and I say I don’t want any. They shoot back don’t you eat steak. I say “No!” in a I’m going to kill you voice. They are leaving because I have that look on my face that scares people. How about this fuck head, I can’t afford to buy your fucking steaks or seafood. I can’t afford the meat in the store. Fuck off and stay the fuck away like you have been told. In the last two days I’ve been getting really frustrated and getting ready to blow. Oh wait! I already have on both days. Nothing today yet. Ain’t life a fucking joy when when you’re messed up and broken. Fuck, fuckette, fuck, fuck, fuck!

Well, the wand tends to reset to pumpkins. You have to fiddle with it a bit.

Poverty does indeed suck. I’ve been there. I’m still paying for that period, because I couldn’t get dental care, and my teeth just are not really good. No matter how much money I can spend now, I can’t restore my teeth to great health.

Poverty sucks because you can’t get a break from it. It takes constant effort and a good dose of luck to be able to pull yourself up.

Way to threadshit, Lib.

I feel for ya, OP, and I wish you the best.

Ramen noodles and fried bologna, no poverty-stricken college student diet would be complete without it.

Goddamn it, I’m still paying off those morgtage-sucking loans!

Good luck finding work, Broomstick.

Are you fucking serious? What could that snatch had possibly said that made any sense, once you stated that were allergic to tomatoes? Did she not believe yo?

Joe

Like it or not, there are degrees of poverty, and not all degrees involve shitting in a can in the street or sleeping in a hole in the ground. Simply having a roof and a computer and usually just enough food doesn’t make one NOT poor, just because others don’t have those things.

Joe

I imagine one of the things that must suck most about poverty is hearing people better off than you boast about how bad off they were.

'kay, I thought *Liberal ** was making a dig, but the way he worded it I wasn’t sure, and so didn’t want to say anything. I’m sure as hell not going to get into a “who’s got it worse contest”, as I don’t posssess the martyr gene that Liberal seems to. I was simply responding in the spirit that the OP intended.

*Liberal, if I missunderstood your comments, than I apologize for the martyr comment.

Sorry for what you’re going through, Broomstick; I hope some better people drift into your life, your current cohorts don’t sound like they’re much help.

I read it as exactly that, because Lib has done that before. And I hated to do it, because Lib called me “forty kinds of cool” in the last Big Brother thread and that was nice. But he WAS threadshitting, against the express wishes of the OP, so it had to be called.

Sorry, Lib.

Cheer up, Broomstick. You’ve still got the best zit story ever, and you’ll always win those threads. They can’t take that away from you.

No problem, jayjay. We can’t always agree. I still think you’re forty kinds of cool. :slight_smile: I think I did exactly what the OP said to do. I bitched about poverty as I have experienced it. If that’s threadshitting, then oh well.

I think poverty sucks the worst when you have any sort of health issue or dental issue at all. What the fuck happens if you break your leg and can’t work? Well a root canal could fix that tooth but you better just pull it because you can’t afford one. I myself don’t make shit right now and I have horrific TMJ that I can’t do anything about because I can’t afford to, I just have to live in chronic pain everyday.

Poverty Sucks…because if it didn’t, everyone would be doing it.