I was only vaguely aware of the comic. I may have peeked inside an issue or two, but never collected or read the series. I did enjoy the pilot enough that I will continue watching the show. Interesting characters! I especially want to see more of Tulip, who I find sexy and entertaining!
Chihuahua’s mistaken about who the teabag chewer is.
[spoiler]He’s not Herr Starr, who’s sort of a commando/assassin for a secret group in the Vatican known as The Grail. Instead, he’s Fiore, and his friend is Deblanc. Fiore’s the gentleman in need of the new pants. They’re not human, which is what the teabag-eating is foreshadowing. Rather, they’re angels who have been sent to recover the thing that’s been blowing up preachers around the world.
They’re not great at their jobs.[/spoiler]
Is that confirmed or just a guess? I figured the guys on the plane were Grail but I sort of assumed that the show was going to leave the angels out of it given how they seem to have changed the nature of Genesis,
Did they change Genesis’ nature?
Confirmed on IMDb.
Oh, lame. I totally believed that was Starr.
Seems to me it’s at least tweaked pretty hard. It could be superficial.
Well it was certainly interesting. It seemed pretty intriguing, and I’d be curious to see everything explained. But, looking at a few of the character bios on the Wikipedia, it does seem like the original comic was sort of random for random’s sake, with a lot of constant thrash of the characters and over-the-top violence, without much cause.
Maybe it’s an overly subtle distinction, but to me there’s a difference between having a setting which is X, where X might be “weird and violent”, so you have something like Spartacus where there’s violence mixed in with heavy boozing, parties, and orgies, but it makes sense. That is reasonably what you might expect the life of a character in that time and place to be like. But if you are having characters going around all over the place and always encountering X, regardless of who they are, where they are, or what they are doing then unless there’s a reason for X to be occurring all the time - like they’re cursed, or causing the mischief themselves, or whatever - then I start to get the feeling that either the author is a one-trick pony, or the author is crazy and thinks that the world is actually like that, and they’re trying to convince me of it too. Personally, I have no interest in one-trickism, regardless of whether it’s “weird and violent” or “friendship is magic” or anything else, and it would seriously annoy me if the writers start trying to sell me on any particular world view.
So I’m a bit worried about the future of the show. If they stick to fleshing out the elements that were introduced in the first episode I think it will be good. If they just keep piling on the crazy without end or seem to start getting into a rut or being preachy, I’ll duck out in a hurry.
Per Miller…They’re not human, which is what the teabag-eating is foreshadowing. Rather, they’re angels who have been sent to recover the thing that’s been blowing up preachers around the world. They’re not great at their jobs.
Heh, heh. I love earnest incompetence. (In fiction, not real life.)
Thanks to all for your answers to my questions. It appears that maybe the best thing I can do is to peruse Wikipedia to flesh things out.
Hopefully they’ll clear some things up in the episodes going forward, even as they keep the story going. The pilot could have had more exposition, but I know that can be difficult to have enough exposition explaining who everyone is without it getting boring or overwhelming.
OK, I’m in for a least a few more episodes. It’s like a weird amalgam of Tarantino and Tim Burton. I’m cool with not knowing everything that’ going on yet, but I hope they don’t introduce a bunch more new characters every episode. Let’s stick with this bunch for a while until we get to know who is who (or what).
Watched it with my wife. Had never heard of the comic. I woulda liked it better if it weren’t quite so over-the-top graphically bloody. Just a personal taste thing. I could have handled it (I do try to catch Ash), but it pretty much turned off my wife - and it would be much more fun if we could have enjoyed it together.
One minor question (which I’ll spoiler):
On the plane, one guy pours water over Cassidy - with no effect. I assumed it was holy water. In this universe, do sunlight and holy water not affect vampires?
I’ll watch at least one more. Like I said, I’d LIKE to like it a lot more, if the violence weren’t quite so in your face. Liked the sheriff character - he’s Arseface’s dad, right? And if Arseface is a normal young man, why would he be eating ground up meat and raw eggs? Loved the bit with Tulip and the kids - tho again, coulda done without the closeup of the pilot with the tin soldiers in his head. REALLY good fight in the car. Loved when she was trying to shoot him, but couldn’t get the angle.
Your wife would not like The Walking Dead.
Direct sunlight does - if you watch again carefully, you’ll see at the end of the episode Cassidy stick his bare hand out into a sunny patch and watches it catch fire. However indirect sunlight isn’t a bother, he’s fine in a shady spot. “Holy water” it seems does zilch.
This is true as Cassidy lounges in the relative shade of an impact crater.
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He basically doesn’t have a lower jaw or any teeth, so chewing food isn’t really an option for him. The make-up on the actor for the show is pretty good, but it doesn’t push the extent of his injuries quite as far as it should. The sheriff is also one of the biggest assholes in the comic, and that’s a high bar to clear - he absolutely hates his son, and holds him in total contempt. I’m not sure how much that’s going to carry over to the show - the comic version of the character is more “hardass Texas ranger” than “overweight Barney Fife,” but in general, he’s not going to go the extra mile to make things nice for his kid.
Yeah in the comics he doesn’t speak to his kid at all after the accident that causes his deformity. Literally doesn’t speak to him ever. They seem to be softening him a bit for the show, but they almost have to. I think even on AMC there is some stuff you can’t do.
As a fan of the original comic book I thought I’d give this a go when it appeared on Amazon Prime.
I was, sadly, underwhelmed.
The lead characters lack charisma and the first episode really dragged. Will watch the second when it is available in the hope it improves.
FTR I really enjoyed Constantine (the series, not the movie).
Are you on this again??? Jeebus, find a new obsession.
Watched the pilot last night.
Good filming, good acting, some nice soundtrack songs. A good bit of dialogue here and there. OTOH, it’s odd they subtitle the weird face kid but not the Irish guy. Should have been the other way around.
Completely crap story arc. Holy cow, what a mess. “Confusing” doesn’t begin to describe it. Over and over: Who is this now? Why did that happen? Why didn’t this other person react normally?
Just the airplane melee scene alone raises a huge number of questions. The people on the plane are trying to fool the Irish guy into going somewhere. They stash a bunch of weapons, mostly medieval around the plane. Maybe because guns are too dangerous on a plane? But wait, there’s a guy with a gun! So, why not a lot of guns? And why the elaborate gambit in mid air? Once you got him in the plane, then attack first. On the ground. With guns. And on and on.
Style is nice. But substance in the form of storytelling matters more.