Babies are a lot harder to light.
I’m pregnant and quit when I found out. I felt like crap for about a week. It did not kill me or my baby. My doc was very, very proud of me. She also mentioned during my umm, exam, how outraged she was when people claim that their doctor told them to keep smoking to reduce stress. She has never heard a doctor nor heard of a doctor saying such a thing in this day and age.
I shake my head at pregnant smokers. It’s just stupid. (But, they could indeed just be fat as others have mentioned.)
Oh and all you pregnancy stalkers–that glass of beer I’m enjoying at the bar with my friends? It’s NA. That “martini” I’m having is pineapple juice. That latte is fake is too…but damn I love the smell of coffee decaf or not. Rushing to judge seems to be a hobby for some though…and touching my belly for others. :eek:
I don’t see how the abortion/it’s her body arguments apply. It’s not going to be her body in 0-9 months. Maybe smoking affects the fetus, maybe it doesn’t, but if I can have the courtesy to not smoke around children, let alone infants and pregnant women, the expecting damn well better be able to do the same. I’ve quit for months at a time to train for a marathon without too much trouble, I’d imagine it would be much easier to do so for my own offspring.
Wow, that must be one hell of a huge list. Do you write it down, or keep it in your head?
Wow, I should make that my signature.
:rolleyes:
I just wanted to add another linky, even though it seems like the thread is dying down.
From the March of Dimes Smoking Cessation website:
Lots of stuff there. I don’t advocate yelling at pregnant ladies except in the Pit, but to say it has no effect at all because of anecdotes is kind of naive. I’m not here to fight, though, and will bow out now.
Hey, that was my line!
Juan dances at Chico’s
And when the clients are evicted
He empties the ashtrays
And pockets all that he’s collected
But baby’s on fire
And all the instruments agree that
Her temperature’s rising
But any idiot would know that. --Brian Eno
Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
Damn! Now I’m going to have that blast-from-the-past earworm in my head all day!!!
Babies on fire
Better throw her in the water
Look at her laughing
Like a heifer to the slaughter
Thanks a lot!
The “exactly” wasn’t precisely used. I’m not an advocate of banning bars. I’m perfectly happy not going to bars and dance clubs. I don’t care what they do in there.
My mom smoked while pregnant with me too. I was born premature. I too also am susceptible to upper resporatory infection and ear infections. Plus, I was born with a heart defect that lead to me having a stroke when I was 24 years old. So, yeah smoking mothers deserve to be pitted but like everyone else has said, it’s her body and her child that she’ll mess up.
That smoking pregnant woman makes me sick! I think it’s utterly disgusting behavior.
That being said, my mom smoked when she was pregnant with my brother and I, back in the early 70s, and we turned out fine and normal and of above-average health and intelligence.
But still, it angers me that she smoked while we were in-utero, but luckily we turned out OK. So my point is, it is possible to smoke and have a healthy baby. But it is still a dispicable thing to do.
I’ll second this. My mother smoked and drank heavily while she was pregnant with me, my brother, and my sister (it was the sixties and seventies - it was good for you then). No asthma, webbed feet, or retardation. Okay, my brother can be a bit of a jerk at times, and my sister keeps griping that she can’t find a decent man, but otherwise we’re fine. Except for my brain damage, but since no one knew about it until I was 32, I don’t think that can count.
For the record:
[ul][li]If you start smoking, you’re stupid. (I was when I started).[/li][li] If you do start smoking - it’s your business if you want to fuck up your lungs.[/li][li] You should not smoke if you are pregnant[/li][li] My wife and I quit smoking when she got pregnant with Fang.[/li][li] If you do not smoke, and you go where there were already people smoking - too bad they were there first.[/li][li] If you do smoke, and you go where there are no smokers - be cool, and ask before you light up.[/ul][/li]
"What are questions you should never ask unless you already know the answer?
I’ll take social faux pas for $600"[ul]
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Try this Eno instead:
There’s a brain in the table,
There’s a heart in the chair
And they all live in Jesus,
It’s a family affair.
Hey now, it’s hard to quit. Especially now that she’s smoking for two!
standing in awe that I’ve missed this point
Very well done. 
As for the OP, I’d like to reiterate my stance on this. NOW has won me over. It’s the woman’s choice and I will not invade her bodily privacy. It is up to her and her doctor to decide how best to handle the pregnancy. Frankly, I just don’t give a shit anymore. I’m through judging and have somehow (amazing considering how pro-life I used to be) learned to just let it go.
I get up in the morning, go to work and pay my bills. I know my wife won’t ever have an abortion and that’s good enough for me. Whatever other women want to choose between bearing and aborting doesn’t directly affect me. In fact, if they want to abort it will likely save me money in the long run. If the mother doesn’t want the kid to live, he probably won’t have an upbringing that would nurture a life to let him grow to be the person that cures cancer. Cold? Hell yeah. Do I care? Nope. Her choice. None of my business.
And yes, I’m serious. I just don’t care anymore. I have enough on my plate to no longer bitch about someone paying taxes to fund the health care of the children of low-income parents. Let her smoke. It’s her body, her choice.
While a position based on conviction is better than one based on “I don’t give a rat’s ass”, the end result in this case is the same, I guess.
If your newfound apathy could extend to not harping on the subject in unrelated threads, that would be nice.
The best I can say about that is “Good thing you kept your thoughts to yourself and decided to vent here instead of to her”. But I think irishgirl was going farther than your scope… Do you only care for the unborn kid, and not about that kid and his/her family when it is born? What if the mom stops smoking during pregnancy, only to pick it up again after the baby is born? The kid (for most of the babyhood and childhood) will still be subject to his/her mom’s smoking.
Are you also mad at the smoking parents that take their puff in front of their kids, all day long? No? Why not? They are still causing harm to their kids, triggering their allergies and asthma attacks.
And by the way, don’t confuse being stupid to doing stupid things. My mom smoked while she was pregnant with me, wasn’t able to quit it (she did quit 2 months after I was born, and never smoked again). What she did was stupid, yes. What she a stupid ignorant woman? Nope.
And I turned out fine, thank you…
Burn, Baby, burn!
Disco inferno!
This is true. And I apologize for the seeming cross-reference/thought. Just trying to explain where the stance came from. And the fact that anti-smokers and pro-choice groups have shown me that harping on it is very effective, I let loose my opinion.
Of course, since I wasn’t the only one to make the comparison is a bit perplexing. But I digress. My point was made and there isn’t any point on keeping on with it.
Carry on. 