Presidential preference poll, nominees decided version

Why would a moderate want the staggeringly stupid and backwards GOP platform to be enacted?

What, exactly, is the GOP promising that is moderate?

You’re talking to Will. His political views have no relationship to rationality.

I voted for Obama thinking that he could be a great President. He turned out to be an extremely good one.

I am voting for Clinton expecting her to be an extremely good President. Maybe she’ll end up being a great one.

Even if she turned out to be a cross between Nixon and Bush 43, she’d still be light years better than Trump.

And it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Trump had an enemy list that puts Nixon’s to shame.

You see? Trump has a plan for overpopulation, too. It’s a brilliant plan, you’re not going to believe it!

Maybe not yet, but he’s gaining.

Clinton. Duh.

Between a frequent liar with whom I agree on most policy issues, and a racist, self-absorbed bully who’s moved sharply to the right over the years, I’ll go with Door #1.

Wait wait - which one’s the door with the goat?

The one to the peanut-butter factory floor: Geico "Screaming Scapegoat" commercial HQ - YouTube

I honestly believe that if Trump were President, he’d make George W. Bush look like Thomas Jefferson.

Trump would be the worst President in U.S. history, and it would not be a close call. His admnistration would have a measurably significant negative impact on American life expectancy.

The suicide rate, it will be YUUUUGE.
Either that or there will be a civilian-led invasion of Canada.

Yes, the suicide rate would undoubtedly increase. A Trump presidency would be dreadful for the economy. Bad economies kill people, including by suicide.

Johnson is running away with second place!

None of the above. For the first time in my life both candidates are so horrifically bad I can’t be party to electing either one of them so I’m going to write in a candidate. It won’t make a difference, but at least I won’t have cast a vote for Trump or Clinton.

I’m very happy to cast my vote for
a) a milestone in history that will expand our talent pool moving forward,
b) a person intimately familiar with 2 successful administrations, the legislative process, and international affairs
c) a politician who has been excoriated for 3 decades without anything of true substance being revealed,
d) a continuation of the progress our country has made over the last 8 years.

Damn straight it’s President Clinton for me.

Well I guess a) is valid in the sense that from now on, we will consider women who married a President as candidates for President.

As for d), my support for Clinton is based on me counting on the fact that she’ll depart from Obama on several issues. You do know that tying herself to Obama is strategy, right?

Gary Johnson wants to abolish personal and corporate income taxes and cut federal expenditures by 43% across the board. Never mind whether these are good ideas or bad; I’m trying to understand how you get from there to “moderate.” :rolleyes:

Moderation isn’t just in the ideology, it’s also in the demeanor. Gary Johnson has said he’d take a 10-1 spending to taxes deal from Democrats without hesitation. In the real world, he’d probably be willing to take a lot less than that. That makes him more moderate than Republicans, who won’t take ANY deal that raises taxes, even if Democrats agreed to abolish SS and Medicare.

So yeah, Johnson would like to cut federal expenditures in half, but if he had a Democratic Congress and they came to him with a deal to reform entitlements and cut spending by say, 5%, but he had to agree to raise taxes on the rich a little, a deal would be struck pretty quickly. That’s what makes him a moderate, at least by comparison. No matter how extreme his stated positions, they aren’t demands. They are just a starting point for negotiations.

I’d prefer to think of it as a “simultaneous mass vacation ingress.”

Moderates don’t talk about removing Kim Jong Un from power in Korea and uniting the Peninsula under Seoul while hating the various regime changes performed by both Bush and Obama. That is an immoderate hypocrite. This after making clear how much he hates hypocrisy.