In other words, are you motivated by a desire to keep Trump out of office more than any wish to see Clinton in?
My answer’s is…not exactly. That is, I didn’t especially want Secretary Clinton to be the nominee, even though I think she’s qualified, because I don’t like political dynastics. But I DO think she’s qualified, and while I’d have been happier with Biden as the nominee, I can unapologetically campaign and vote for her.
But that’s just me. What about the rest of you?
I’m with you. She’s not my favorite , but she’s acceptable, and I would have voted for her over any of the Republicans in the field this cycle.
Nope; I’m voting for Clinton. I think she was a shining light during Bill Clinton’s administration, and I believe she’ll be even better, herself.
Ditto. Not in love with her but, compared to Trump, it is a no-brainer to vote for her.
I’d be a lot happier with Hillary in the White House if Bill were simultaneously exiled to Oz for the duration of her term
I could’ve written this word for word, right down to the Biden preference.
My only real issue with Clinton is the dynastic aspect.
There is not a republican in the country that I would vote for over Clinton.
Personally, I would have preferred Clinton over Obama back in 2008 so I’m happy to be voting for her now.
That said, you’d have to search pretty far to find a candidate I wouldn’t vote for if they were running against Donald Trump.
I’d vote for Hillary over any Republican at all. Trump just makes the contrast more intense. That being said, I’d prefer Biden (NOT Sanders).
I’m voting for Clinton, because she’s the best out of all the options, including Sanders.
That is, I could probably imagine a better candidate, but that person’s not running and may not even exist, so Clinton is the best out of the set of options I have.
And, on a personal note, I’m getting annoyed with the people who assume that Clinton is a second-choice to Sanders for everyone. I picked Clinton when Sanders was still theoretically an option, based on policy positions, and I do indeed rank her above Sanders.
Obama > H. Clinton > Every other plausible 2016 Democratic candidate > Trump
I think Hillary is the victim of a longstanding smear campaign. Yes, she’s not a natural politician. She sees domestic and foreign policy as a set of interlocking problems. Weirdly, it’s her instincts towards honesty as opposed to political pandering that get her tripped up. She knows policy is complicated and its interplay with politics even more so. So when she’s asked yes or no questions, she can’t bring herself to convincingly say yes or no.
Kevin Drum depicts H Clinton’s response to questions about whether she will deport immigrants who don’t have a criminal record or whatever: [INDENT][INDENT] It’s pretty obvious that Hillary is doing her best to tap dance around this. If you were watching, you could almost hear the gears grinding in her head. She desperately doesn’t want to give a yes-or-no answer—probably because she knows perfectly well that this isn’t a yes-or-no question—but it’s obvious Ramos isn’t going to give up. So she’s making calculations in real time about whether she can afford to provide an ambiguous answer in front of a Latino crowd on national TV, or if she should just cave in and make a Shermanesque statement.
Part of this calculation, of course, is that Bernie Sanders is standing right next to her, and she knows that Bernie will have no trouble with a Shermanesque statement. He thrives on them. And that will appeal to Latino voters. Grind, grind, grind. So eventually she gives in and flatly promises never to deport anyone without a criminal record.
Which, as we all know, is almost certainly an impossible promise to keep. And Hillary hates that. She knows what the legal and political realities are, and she hates having to pretend they don’t exist. But this year, we’re running an election where reality doesn’t matter. A big chunk of both Democratic and Republicans voters flatly don’t care if policies are realistic. They just want to know what a candidate feels.
This is what I meant last night when I said Hillary tends to be honest to a fault when discussing policy. It’s ironic, given her reputation. In this case, I doubt that she wants to deport children. Her intentions are every bit as good as Bernie’s. But she can’t stand to pretend that that’s all there is to it. Unfortunately, this is not the year for policy honesty. If Hillary wins, it will be in spite of her honesty, not because of it.[/INDENT][/INDENT] Emphasis in original. Any politician would face the same constraints in office that Hillary would. It’s just that most all of them are better at pretending otherwise.
I’ve always admired her, including the steel that has let her so gracefully endure literally decades of attacks that no man ever would. She was a close partner in what may have been the most successful administration of the modern era, including beginning the process that eventually led to Obamacare, she was a major part of another successful administration, and I would like that spirit and the competence to return (I really do not understand the opposition to “dynasties” but that’s another thread).
I would still strongly support her even if the oppositionist opposition had nominated a traditional respectable loser.
For Clinton >> Against Trump.
I am voting for her but I’d vote for a large number of those I wouldn’t want to vote for against Trump.
For Clinton
No, I’m in for her. I voted for her in the primaries against Obama, and was thrilled to vote for her against Sanders now. I’ll vote for her with pride in November.
She’s not my ideal candidate for a number of reasons but she’s experienced and competent, and if the Benghazi hearings are anything to go by she’s the sort of person you want on your side of the table in any hard negotiation scenario. I was initially an O’Malley supporter but he was out before I even had a chance to get a sense of what kind of president he’d be. So - Clinton.
Trump is not the reason I’m voting Clinton - I’d take her over any of the prospective GOP candidates this round - but he’s the reason voting for Clinton is important. Just the thought of him as president gives me the heebie-jeebies.
I want to vote against Clinton but I’m not seeing a viable alternative.
For me Clinton was always the best choice in this election. I can appreciate Bernie’s platform, but it takes more than a platform to be an effective leader. Being the nation’s highest executive requires the ability to build coalitions across a politically diverse country. And despite what Sanders’ voters believe, you can’t just write off people who aren’t completely willing to sign on to every proposal you write. Yelling louder and calling them corrupt and names won’t convert them either. Like it or not, you need Wall Street and corporate America.
That said, I can appreciate the fact that Bernie Sanders has pushed the democrats to the left. I think there have been times when the democratic party has been afraid of its own shadow and chickened out when it came to pushing policies that protect the working class. I think they are less afraid now. I give Barack Obama some credit for that, but I also credit Sanders as well. The democratic party has needed a spine, and he has helped to give them one…hopefully.
I would have preferred Biden but Hillary is just fine with me. I do have concern about her hawkishness and too much in bed with Wall Street but on social issues she’s in the right place. My main concern is running against a (forgive the oxymoron) competent Republican in 2020.
Hilary isn’t the ideal candidate but she’s the best Democrat of those running this election cycle. Sanders has some good ideas but he started a bit late to show he could run a country; let’s hope his “movement” continues & produces some great Democratic candidates for the future.
Hilary is far better than *any *of the Republican options who shambled across those debate stages. Trump? Forget it…