Prince Dead at 57

Where’s the evidence for this? I concur with sleestak that “Celebrites are prone to drug problems” is the (unfortunately well supported by history) meme here.

We do know that he’s supposed to be a very good basketball player. Between that and his dancing ability, I’d guess that he’d be able to take Sinead O’Conner. She’s 2 inches taller than and seems a bit sturdier, but I think he’s probably more athletic and light on his feet.

Who, TMZ? TMZ is very, very rarely wrong about this stuff*. And of course most of their sources are anonymous. Many of them are cops, medical professionals (or even just random hospital staff), friends of celebs (as in “a source close to the family”) etc. So, if Billy Joel gets arrested tonight and I’m working the intake at Long Island PD, I can tall TMZ, give them the lead, they give me the money. Do some fact checking and after verifying the story is true an article goes up on TMZ that says 'An anonymous source at Long Island PD…". If my name was listed, I’d get fired and no one else would bother calling in with tips. No name mentioned…maybe I’ll call them back the next time I see a celeb in the drunk tank.
*Yes, wiki mentions a handful of things they were wrong about, but you have to take into consideration how many things they been right about (and first).

Because his client (I assume the son is also being represented by the same attorney) called 911, had a backpack full of narcotics (Suboxone, for helping withdraw from opiates) and his father, and addiction specialist was supposed to meet with Prince in a few days.

The attorney is just getting out in front of the news and making a statement. People will run with the first thing they hear so the attorney would rather it was from him instead of you reading somewhere on the internet “Cops find guy with backpack full of pills at Paisley Park when Prince Died”.

It’s pretty common.

I think the dust up was between Sinead and Arsenio, not Prince.

If I had meant specifically “TMZ” I would have named TMZ.

I meant media in general: TV, print, internet, bloggers, and so on. Every time a celebrity dies there seems to be a race to find the most/worst scandal.

True, I mean, we’re not talking about Michael Jackson here.

Well, then think of that before you seek fame.

“Can honour set to a leg? no: or
an arm? no: or take away the grief of a wound? no.
Honour hath no skill in surgery, then? no. What is
honour? a word. What is in that word honour? what
is that honour? air. A trim reckoning! Who hath it?
he that died o’ Wednesday. Doth he feel it? no.
Doth he hear it? no. 'Tis insensible, then. Yea,
to the dead. But will it not live with the living?
no. Why? detraction will not suffer it. Therefore
I’ll none of it. Honour is a mere scutcheon: and so
ends my catechism.”

(Falstaff is using the word “honour” not in the sense of “integrity” or “honesty” but in the sense of “reputation”. “Fame” plugs in just as well.)

Why does any of this matter? How many brawls have you heard of Prince getting into?

You did, you practically tore me a new one for daring to cite them.
Go back to post 111

You actually did, in fact, name TMZ. 3 times by my count. But if you meant someone else, name them, I’m not a mind reader…and since you don’t have a problem with TMZ, get off my case, they’re the only website I’ve cited or pulled any information from.

Could’ve sworn I read an account where Sinead is “summoned” to Prince’s house, he criticizes her for her foul language, she reacts predictably, and they get into a fight.

Ah, here it is:

ETA: Just read that article linked above about Arsenio, and they recap it there too.

The Daily Mail is banned in Thailand and its website blocked due to a rather, um, unflattering report and video it had regarding a certain member of a, shall we say a very powerful Thai family. Is there any other source?

I didn’t read the daily mail article, but that same wording is on Sinead’s wiki page.

Thanks. Fortunately, Thailand has not blocked Wikipedia … yet.

ETA, it looks like she later retracted it, saying (according to wiki, anyway) “O’Connor claimed that the story was “much exaggerated by the press” and referred to him as “a sweet guy””
However, I can’t get to the links where Prince said it didn’t happen or the one where Sinead said it was exaggerated. ISTM, however, if it was exaggerated, either she exaggerated it or they misquoted her.
Here’s the article.

My guess, she exaggerated it (she’s always been kind of over the top) and later, for one reason or another, took it back.

If he was junkie, it would explain a LOT.
Don’t know how far back the junkie-dom started, but being ‘shy’, ‘a private person’ - SPECIAL somehow - changing his name to a symbol??? - all that esoteric better than the foul smelling rabble crap - all points to a doper extraordinaire.

And what’s the big deal? It seems most musicians kick off from overdoses, with big smiles on their faces, LEGENDS who left us “far, far too early”. Well, DUH. That’s what they do. When you become famous you are legally obligated to sniff, snort, swallow anything and everything, because you can afford it, you are supposed to do it to be ‘cool’ and above the hoi polloi, and cause massive rending of garments and weeping when you croak. When was the last time you heard of a rock star dying from falling off the orphanage roof while nailing on a new roof? When was the last time you heard of a rock star giving to a hospital, an animal shelter, abused womens shelter, abused children? No, it’s all drugs and drugs and drugs and me me me. No wonder he never made a will, he was most likely in a stupor most of his career and couldn’t be bothered with petty real life.

That’s quite a leap.

Your post displays both ignorance and a mean spirit. Prince was among the most community-minded rock stars, quietly supporting dozens of charitable initiatives, especially in his native Minneapolis.

Hm. I’ve always thought of Thailand as a free country (that’s what the name means, in fact, IIRC), but maybe not so much.

This post is shocking in its meanness and commitment to stereotyping and its commitment to ignorance of everything anyone knows of Prince"s life.

For example, the explanation for the symbol has been known for years.

Prince was any and private, yes, but he wasn’t isolated. He was always working and there were always people he was working with. He was always described as.extraordinarily productive and engaged and alert and skilled. He released as many albums as Bob Dylan did in much less time. Not things you would expect from a “junkie.”

And the only way that shyness, etc., are “perfectly explained” by being a “junkie” is an extraordinary manufacturing of a new stereotype by nailing together a grab bag of old ones.

Theres also the deliberate confusion between being a “junkie” and opioid dependence resulting from pain management.