Well, yeah; I said I was taking it with a grain of salt.
Thanks, yojimbo.
eleanorigby, good question. I heard an anecdote once about Diana, William and Harry at a restaurant here in LA. The waitron listed the specials, and Harry asked, “Are they ‘special’ just because we’re here?” Diana told him jokingly, “No, and you’ll get a special smack if you say something like that again!” Perhaps she would be a stabilizing influence.
Nah, he probably would have worn a SH costume then. 
And adolescense or no, [being 20 is being a teen? ] “dark humor” or no; wearing a Nazi uniform just makes you an asshole.
It’s quite straightforward. Prince Philip is getting on a bit and simply doesn’t have the energy anymore to always be putting his foot in it and upseting people. Someone had to step up and fill the void. I suspect they had a meeting and Harry got the short straw.
But an excellent start by the youngster, if a bit unimaginative. Give him another 20 years and he’ll be pulling finely honed gaffs that’ll outrage a consistant 90% of everyone and 110% of all tabloid editors.
definitely it was poor choice of him, not befitting for a third in line to the throne.
The Sun and its so-called journalists are hypocritical tossers of the first order. Look back to its headlines when the England football team beat Germany 5-1 in 2001 or to any encounter between the two countries for an example of their hate-mongering ignorance-spreading profit-obsessed bile.
The partygoer who (I assume) sold the photos is a wretch.
Harry was stupid. Someone show him the photo of the Duke of Windsor meeting Hitler in October 1937 and trying to make a Nazi salute.
It was a fancy dress party, not a Nazi rally. Think The Great Dictator, Fawlty Towers, Dad’s Army, 'Allo 'Allo, Springtime for Hitler, The Producers.
Thank God that Bertie became King (George VI). He was a good man, and his daughter is a good woman.
Rule Britannia!
Effing journalists.
Yet another reason to wish for the Republic of Canada in my lifetime.
I doubt he has to try very hard. I’m guessing his usual courtship ritual goes something like the following:
HARRY: Hi. I’m Prince Harry. Want to have a shag?
GIRL: All right.
I don’t see how the Nazi uniform is a length he needs to go to in order to attract girls. I’m willing to give him the benefit of being stupid and young, though. It probably seemed hysterical to him and his mates before he did it. I just hope somebody chewed his ass about it. Diana must be spinning.
Or his father (whoever that might be)!
Why do people take things like this so seriously? It’s just a costume. I think it’s actually a little bit funny.
I dunno. I remember guys wearing SS insignia on jean jackets when I was in HS (late '70’s). I am not saying these guys were looked up to or “cool” but I do think there is a fascination with Nazi regalia.
Also, IMO, Harry probably is immature for 20. I realize that they have enormous pressures on them, but they are also somewhat cocooned and indulged.
I doubt that Diana(if living) would have let him get away with it–nothwithstanding the fact that she may not have known, being that their schedules/agendas didn’t jive that day. (what a horrible sentence).
Was Diana considered stupid? I’ve never heard that.
I’ve never heard it either. (Of course, I’ve never heard that she was superintelligent, either, but I never heard that she was dumb.) What I did hear was that she was very polite, thoughtful and well-spoken, went out of her way to put others at ease*, and never did anything that could possibly be taken wrong. A lady, not just a Lady.
I’d like to think that if she had lived, Harry would have checked himself before doing a lot of the things he’s been excoriated for, knowing that even if the press didn’t find out, his mother would rip him a new one when she found out.
*Check out the photo of her on her wedding day, just before the ceremony, the one where she’s leaning down to the little flower girl. Reportedly, she was saying something along the lines of “Don’t be nervous; just picture them all in their underwear!”
:rolleyes: I dunno, maybe because large numbers of British guys were killed or injured fighting to protect Britain and The British Royal Family from the enemy, which partly consisted of Nazi Germany? And maybe because Edward VIII was an admirer of Hitler? I’m not laughing, but that could be because my father’s uncles were prisoners-of-war in WWII.
This is yet more evidence that the Royal Family is not very bright, and that Harry got his tact and diplomacy genes from Prince Phillip, who is famous for his “interesting” public comments to native peoples of various countries.
My father was a decorated World War II veteran who once dressed up as Adolf Hitler at a parish Halloween party and won a prize for the best costume. I wore the costume to my 7th grade halloween party and also won. So this whole thing seems blown out of proportion to me.
My great uncle was never rumored to have made a secret deal with Hitler to rule the British Empire as a Nazi puppet though. Maybe that makes all the difference.
Well, there is that.
He just wants to be a real boy Geppetto.
Yes, it was probably Not A Great Idea to wear the costume, but the howls of outrage from the press that his apology is insufficient and that he should do more to placate the fucking stupid frenzied media circus that they themselves created is just unbelievable.
I’m also finding it rather odd that the BBC (which is not the royal family, obviously, but is often held in similar high regard by the same people) can make comedy programmes about Nazis that are generally cherished.
Very good point.
Anyway, Charles has the matter in hand.
Maybe he shouold go to Auschwitz; sounds like that would be a good, ignorance-fighting idea in any case, but I’m afraid whatever he does now will be criticised by someone; there will be those who say “He has the gall to turn up at Auschwitz after that whole Dressing As A Nazi scandal? How insensitive”, while others will say “Too little, too late, and anyway, he’s only doing it because he’s been told to”.
The tabloids are still trying to milk this.
A couple of points strike me:
All I can say is the discretion of party hosts/guests has gone down hill since my day. This kind of thing has been going on for years and no one ever cared about it before.
He’s really an insignificant figure. Once William starts breeding he falls out of the line of sucession pretty quickly.
We’ve been here before - Andrew was just as dim (see above for relevence in the long term)
He needs to get into Sandhurst FAST!
Typical ginger behaviour!
He come from a German family anyway.
(BTW Diana was quite astonishingly thick - even by Sloane standards. She only passed one CSE, in child care (the irony!).
