I remembered something from the movie, and Im wondering now did I imagine it because no one I went with can remember it.
When Harry & Hermione went back in time, was there a constant ticking behind them? As if too show that time was running out? I know I definately heard it in some cases, but was it to signify this or something else?
Anyone know?
I was reminded of the Commodore 64 Alien game.
I wonder how long it will take for a screen saver to be made?
You can enter names and see them randomly move around your screen.
I’m pretty sure the ticking was only when you were near the giant clock. I rather liked the repeated presence of the heavy-handed clock (which I don’t think was in the previous movies) even if the allusion was (bad pun) somewhat heavy-handed.
Same with the shots of the whomping willow and the 3-4 "Where did you come from?"s. Not as happy about there actually being a Grim in the cup (and the clouds) since Trelawney’s supposed to give real predictions only rarely. Although, the one in the clouds could be seen as Harry’s paranoia.
Also, Gary Oldman love.
i thought lupin was british not gay. kinda cleese-ish, except shorter and not as clumsy.
the house cup is rather important. it doesn’t happen every year. see book 4 and 5.
i was a bit disappointed in the look of the wolf. i would have liked it to be more wolfish than golumish.
i also pictured padfoot as a newfy. perhaps in ootp… when he is better fed and has had a bit of a rest.
the changes to hogwarts i put down as part reaction to the dementors, and seeing new parts of the school. like going in and out a different door gives you a different perspective.
it is a wizard school so i guess vistas can change at the whim of the headmaster.
Quidditch may be important to the readers (I’ll be honest - I cheered when they won the house cup in the third book. Out loud. Yes, I’m a geek), but plotwise, it really doesn’t affect much. It sets up Cho a little bit, and it gives a clue as to Diggory’s character, but this isn’t Harry Potter and Cho Chang and Cedric Diggory. It’s Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. That’s the important thing, so that’s what they centered the movie around.
This particular conversation hasn’t been in spoiler boxes, so that’s how I’ll continue: if you haven’t read the books or aren’t past book three, stop reading… now. As for the rest of you - Cornelius Fudge is friendly to Harry through books three and four, because Harry is representing Hogwarts in the triwizard competition, and Fudge really wants Harry to win. He may or may not start thinking Harry is crazy, thanks to Rita Skeeter’s reporting, but he isn’t really anti-Harry until the end of book four, with all the Voldemort returning stuff. From the beginning of book five until… well… He’s a bastard all through book five and might still be one for all I know. But he’s basically okay until the Voldemort situation arises.
Ludo Bagman never really does much of anything. But I hear he was a really excellent Beater.
I heard it…and occasionally even a chime (faint chime) not really loud, but it was there.
To be fair, movies are the perfect place for things not to make sense, because all you see is the action. You don’t see enough of the entire game to have to worry about it making sense.
If it’s any consolation, he’s been involved with planning the next one, and the next one has yet another new director at the helm.
I liked this movie more than Chamber of Secrets, possibly less than Sorcerer’s Stone, although I haven’t decided yet. There were some things that bugged me, but since I haven’t read the books I don’t know if the director or Rowling is to blame.
The Dursleys are annoying. Yeah, I know we aren’t suppposed to like them, but they are such caricatures I can’t buy them as characters, and their presence quickly becomes irritating.
The bus ride was amusing but had far too much screen time. Yeah, the shrunken rasta head is weird. Yeah, the bus getting skinnier is kinda cool. Get on with it already.
OK, so the Leaky Cauldron is where students can go in an emergency, fine. But what were Ron and Hermione doing there? They never went before that we saw.
And now my biggest gripe, the Dementors. Sure, they looked scary and menacing and evil, but why were they even there? We’re presented with this ostensibly benevolent society of wizards, then we’re told that these evil creatures that feed on souls are used as prison guards, and that they will be posted around the school so the students should stay out of their way. On top of that they are poorly controlled, such that they attack Harry in the middle of a Quidditch match and he falls nearly to his death, but for Dumbledore’s intervention. What the hell sense does that make? If any real world school put a bunch of rabid hyenas around the campus, you can bet there would be hell to pay.
You have to read the books to understand about the Dementors, I suppose. The Ministry of Magic believes they control them, but in fact they have considerably less control (over anything) than they’d like to believe.
The Dementor’s behavious is a precursor to some things that happen in Book 5.
For Sturmhauke: (read at your own risk)
The reasoning behind the Dementors is that they used to be under Voldemort’s control but since his “death” they supposedly switched sides. They just go to show that there is actually evil in this idyllic world. As for Dumbledore having the Dementors at Hogwarts he has no choice. The Dementors are searching for Sirius, and having them around makes it safer for Harry. The whole Dumbledore getting in trouble (Hyena scenario) is shown in CoS, when Dumbledore is dismissed as Headmaster as well as in the later books. It’s a whole political muddle whereby Dumbledore has to tread carefully between doing right by the school and doing right by the Ministry.
I didn’t hear ticking that seemed to follow future Harry and Hermione. But now that you mention it the Castle did have a whole giant clock feel to it, with the pendulum, the shot going through the face of the clock with the mechanisms, Lupin’s study with the mechnical spinning things etc.
Has there ever been a shot of a clock in any of the last films?
Also I know it has nothing to do with this film, and I apologise for the hijack, but I have just realised this as a possibility for the remainder of the story:
I figure that there will be a love triangle between Harry, Hermione and Ron. Since we know that Ron and Hermione are meant to be together (go gingers) and that super spoiler written backwardseno fo eht sretcarahc si gniog ot eid, then I think that it will be Harry, in an Armageddon Affleck/Willis type way.
This one was my favorite of the three, hands down, although I was disappointed about how the whole Lupin/Map thing was glossed over. Also the Crookshanks/Sirius-as-dog/secret knothole on the Whomping Willow thing. Loved Hermione popping Malfoy in the nose, and Buckbeak is the coolest CGI character since Gollum. But where was Pigwidgeon? I wanted to see Pigwidgeon! He would have been hilarious.
You mean together?? 
What was wrong with Crookshanks?
I didn’t quite get how Harry knew about the secret tunnel and where it went but I missed most of the Twins giving Harry the map so maybe they explained it there?
You mean Ron’s tiny runt of an owl? He appears in Book 4 because he only gets an owl now that Scabbers is gone.
Actually he appears in Book 3…
At the end of book 3, Sirius sends Harry a letter by owl (while Harry’s on the train, no less!). The owl is Pigwidgeon (although Ron hasn’t named him yet), and in the postscript to the letter, Sirius gives the owl to Ron as a replacement for Scabbers.
Was there? I thought Trelawny was making it up. I didn’t see anything menacing in the tea leaves.
The Maruders Map gave him directions of where to go to get to Hogsmeade.
I haven’t experienced wizard society as portrayed in HP to be at all benevolent. In fact, I’m using it in an upcoming conference presentation as an example of a rather severe exosystem (system of governance/services/laws) in which it’s difficult for an individual to advocate for him- or herself. Cf Buckbeak, Harry, Sirius, etc.
Pffff. Muggle.
:rolleyes:
It was a very good and fun movie. I haven’t decided if I like this one or the first movie the best. I think the changes to Hogwarts were good for this movie, just like the original look fit the first movie. I liked seeing more magic in use.
With all possible respect to Richard Harris and his portrayal of Dumbledore, I like the new guy. I actually think he will work better for the coming books. The Richard Harris Dumbledore almost seemed too frail.
I haven’t read PoA in over a year. Can anyone tell me if there was a more pressing reason for giving up Buckbeak than what was presented in the movie? Sorry, but I just don’t think it was in Hagrid’s or Dumbledore’s characters to let him be executed to cover their own asses.
Damn I missed that bit. :mad: Was there actually something to see, like the dog that appeared in the clouds during Quidditch?
Yes, but in the film the map was confiscated by Lupin, and I never saw Harry specifically say about that particular tunnel. They did in the book, I’m sure, but not in the film, unless of course it was one of the bits I missed.
I think that’s what made Classic Dumbledore so powerful. While he was physically feeble, he held a strong presence about himself. And I take it you mean better in the coming films, not books. The books’ structure works very well in my opinion and I hope that Rowling isn’t being influenced by the films direction in the future books.
For NE Texan:
Yes, Pigwidgeon was in the last part of Book 3 but from what Marlitharn was saying she was talking about what happens in GoF.
Still would have been nice to see Harry get permission to go to Hogsmeade. Guess he’s out of luck next year as well.
nocturnal_tick Quote:
Must say, I did notice some soggy tea leaves shaped like a grim in the bottom of Harry’s cup. So that was kind of weird.
RogueRacer Quote:
In the book, Malfoy milks his injury for all it’s worth. There’s a scene in the book that I wish had been in the movie, where Malfoy sits by Ron and Harry in Potions class and makes them do all the ingredient preparation for him. Harry confronts him about faking the seriousness of his injury, and Malfoy admits that’s what he’s doing. Lucius Malfoy, who is always eager to get Dumbledore into trouble, makes a strong case about how dangerous Buckbeak is. The procedure involves at least one appeal, but in the end, Buckbeak loses. Fortunately, Harry and Hermione were there to save the day!
About the permission slip for Harry to go to Hogsmeade–I wonder if it will turn up at the beginning of the next move. Sirius gave a permission slip to Harry, who, presumably, passed it on to Dumbledore. Since it wasn’t in the movie, I assume perhaps they’ll have it at the beginning of GoF.
Yes, but Harry was given the map by the Weasleys because he couldn’t go to Hogsmeade, IIRC. I’m sure that was the first thing Harry looked for when he got it.