No, but you said that the people who do must believe that those women actually enjoyed the rape. Once again, I invite you to substantiate your accusation.
Oh, please! Maybe they just think that the trauma of rape makes pregnancy biologically impossible. (They would be mistaken, but it would be a perfectly obvious explanation for their stance.) Or perhaps they just heard some mistruth, and haven’t given the matter sufficient thought – after all, many people are scientifically illiterate, and many others are just plain gullible.
To state that these people must believe that the women actually enjoyed being raped is ridiculous, inflammatory and clearly unsubstantiated. Unless such accusers can demonstrate mind-reading powers, they had better be prepared to provide some evidence for their claims!
And of course, I’ve yet to see anyone actually cite a case wherein some pro-lifers said it was IMPOSSIBLE to get pregnant through rape. Many pro-lifers believe that women are much LESS likely to get pregnant through rape, but that’s a far, FAR cry from saying that it’s “impossible.”
I really don’t want to open a can of Worms, since this has been very good so far, but I just want to know,
Why should a religion try to push a law that will affect people outside of their religion?
If my girlfriend got pregnant, she dosent have the choice to terminate in my country because of a Law that the Catholic Church refuses to allow to be debated. The last time there was a referendum, the Catholic Church basically told people that they would go to hell for voting yes.
I don’t want to appear Anti-Church or anything, just this debate gets me a little aggrivated.
Ok, I used Google and did a quick search and found this
As for the rest, I never said that I’d ever heard someone say that the woman must have enjoyed it if she fell pregnant, and I refuse to “substantiate” that “accusation”. If I was blaming someone in particular, I would, but I made a generalised supposition, and I don’t see any need to prove it true or false - it is or it isn’t, and who cares one way or the other? I think this has gone far enough off topic - the OP was “As a Pro-Lifer, do you believe in some exceptions from the No Abortion rule?”.
He said it was rare. He didn’t say that you can’t get pregnant, which was the exact phrase that you used. Is the difference clear?
Also, please note that this physician offered a physiological explanation for why such pregnancies are rare. At no point did he even remotely suggest that the victims in question must have enjoyed being raped.
Your exact words were “I imagine the people who argue that you can’t get pregnant from rape would conclude that a woman must have secretly enjoyed it if she does fall pregnant, and therefore it wasn’t rape.” In other words, may not have “heard” this hypothesis, but you are certainly the one proposing it.
So you don’t really care if your claim is true or not? Hoo, boy.
If you make a supposition, shouldn’t you be prepared to defend it? To provide at least some shred of evidence for your claim? If there is no basis for your statement, then why offer that statement at all?
Yeah, it’s easy to win an argument when you reference the irrelevant bits of the conversation, and ignore the pertinent bits.
I believe that says “can’t”, correct me if I’m wrong.
As for the rest… tell me, who are you defending? My comment was that people who believe that rape can’t cause pregnancy probably say that the woman wasn’t really raped if she does fall pregnant. I firmly believe that rape can cause pregnancy. I am not claiming to have factual knowledge of people who say the victim must have enjoyed it, that is why I used the word “imagine”. I say this because I can see no other way they could explain such pregnancies away. You are free to cite references which show how they explain rape-induced pregnancies when they insist that it can’t happen, keeping in mind that Rep. Henry Alridge is a person who has said that it can’t.
Perhaps we should take this to another thread in a more appropriate forum? This is, after all, In My Humble Opinion, and we are arguing points that don’t fall under humble or opinion.
Sorry; my bad. I did miss that bit. However, do remember that you are likely to find someone who will espouse any given belief, no matter how misinformed or whacked out. Also note that Aldridge’s statement may have merely been a matter of not getting his facts quite straight.
You’re the one who made an assertion. I’m just asking you to provide evidence for your statement.
And I’m asking you to provide evidence for that statement of yours. As I asked previously, do you have any means of substantiating that statement, or is it merely speculation that’s devoid of evidence? So far, it appears to be the latter.