Yes.
You were claiming there was nobody left to ethnically cleanse, but the fact remains that there are still about a million Palestinians in Israel, and Israel is still ethnically cleansing them. The ethnic cleansing was much more widespread in the 1950s and 60s and this, along with the original 1948 mass ethnic cleansing is what engendered the reprisal attacks. What do you disagree about re. Israel’s founding and present-day Israel?
If you look at all the links I’ve posted up to now you’ll see that they’re all Israeli sources. I can’t find any Israeli sources documenting their ongoing 1950s/60s ethnic cleansing. I’m sure I could find some Arab websites but as soon as I post a link to one they’ll be immediately deniograted as biased, bs etc. But I’ll ask you the same question; bearing in mind that the state of Israel was founded on ethnic cleansing and terrorism, and seeing as how the government of Israel in the 1950s was comprised of Jewish terrorists responsible for various massacres of Palestinians as part of their ongoing campaign to establish a state, and that even after Oslo when Israel was forced to take some legal responsibility for their occupation Palestinians are still being ethnically cleansed, intimidated, murdered etc. by Israelis with almost no protection from the Israeli government, isn’t it just possible that in the 1950s when terrorists ran Israel and had no legal obligation to uphold the rights of Palestinians that the ethnic cleansing that goes on today was going on then, perhaps on an even more widespread basis than today?
You’re conflating the Palestinians, who are the inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza, along with Arab refugees who fled Israel in the events related to its founding, and who are now currently dealing with the curfews and the military occupation, and all the other stuff you see on the news, with the Arab Israelis, who did not flee Israel in the events related to its founding, and who have more or less the same rights and responsibilities as other Israelis, although they do suffer from some discrimination, which is bad.
I’m saying that there wasn’t ethnic cleansing of Israeli Arabs in the 50s and 60s, and there isn’t now, and that the “reprisal attacks”, as you put them, were conducted by Palestinians launching attacks from the refugee camps outside of Israel, and not from the Israeli Arabs living inside of Israel, who were largely politically quiescent.
So I’m asking you, if you have evidence that there was large scale ethnic cleansing of Israeli Arabs during the 50s and 60s (because, remember, the Palestinian refugees were all outside of Israel, and were primarily Jordan’s, Egypt’s, and Lebanon’s problems, and Israel didn’t have any control over either the West Bank or the Gaza Strip at the time), please provide it.
I’m not conflating anything. I’m talking about Palestinians who lived in Israel and were ethnically cleansed/murdered in the 1950s/60s. Once again, Palestinians (or Arab-Israelis) who were living in Israel during the 1950s/60s were subject to an ongoing under-the-radar ethnic cleansing operation just as they continue to be today, just it was more widespread back then. There wasn’t a period in the 50s/60s when everything was sweetness and light with Israel only reverting back to allowing ethnic cleansing sometime after 1970. The ethnic cleansing has continued since 1948 and continues (unarguably) today, but was much more prevalent in the 50s and 60s.
Palestinians now living in Israel (Arab-Israelis) have more or less the same rights as Israelis in the same way that black South Africans had more or less the same rights as white South Africans during the apartheid era.
And what did I say about the founding of Israel and present-day Israel that you disagree with?
American commentators seem ignorant of or blind to Israeli attacks on civilians—such as those carried out repeatedly in Egypt, Gaza, and Jordan in the 1950s and 1960s, and, with even greater frequency, against civilians in the occupied territories and Lebanon in the 1970s, 1980s and today. Nor do US observers or “terrorism experts” seem to be aware of the abuse of Muslim and Christian civilians during the 1948 war, such as the mass expulsions at gunpoint of the inhabitants of Lydda, Ramle and a large number of other Palestinian villages. (See Benny Morris’s new book, *1948 and After: Israel and the Palestinians.) *It took the fullscale invasion of Lebanon and the ghastly bombardment of Beirut in 1982 to get the media to notice, even briefly. Since then, they have lapsed into their previous pattern.
The Kafr Qasim massacre took place in the Israeli Arab village of Kafr Qasim situated on the Green Line, at that time, the de facto border between Israel and Jordan on October 29, 1956. It was carried out by the Israel Border Police (Magav) and resulted in 48 Arab civilians dead, including 6 women and 23 children aged 8-17. Arab sources usually give the death toll as 49, as they include the unborn child of one of the women.
This is anattack on the West Bank and not remaining Palestinians in Israel but it provides some context to why there were those attacks on Israel you listed originally :
The Qibya Massacre occurred in October 1953 when Israeli troops under Ariel Sharon attacked a Jordanian West Bank village. Sixty-nine Palestinians were killed, many while hiding in houses blown up over their heads[citation needed]. Forty-five houses, a school, and a mosque were destroyed.[1]…
Along the Israeli-Jordanian border, infiltrations, armed or otherwise, were frequent from both sides. …
After expelling most of Jaffa’s residents, militarily occupying the city and ghettoizing the remaining original inhabitants, Israeli authorities passed the Absentee Property Law (1950) through which it seized the property of all Palestinians who were not in possession of their immovable properties after the Nakba. Through the implementation of this unjust law, the state of Israel sent its operatives to all corners of the land, surveying the properties left behind by the expelled refugees, the internally displaced Palestinians banned from returning to their lands, and those relocated to the ghettos of Palestine’s cities. Title to these lands, buildings, homes, factories, farms and religious sites were then transferred to the state’s “Custodian of Absentee Property.” This is how the Palestinians of Jaffa, the refugees and the ghettoized, had their properties “legally” stolen by the State of Israel.
In the interviews conducted for our research, we heard dozens of stories from Nakba survivors telling us about how their homes, often just meters away from the ghetto, were seized, and how they could do nothing about it. Many told us stories of how their homes were given to, or simply taken by, new Jewish immigrants, and how they would try to convince the new residents of their homes to give them back some of their furniture, or clothes, or documents, or photographs. In some of these cases, the house’s new resident would give back some of the items, in most of the cases the response was to consider the original Palestinian owner an intruder, and to call the police or report him to the military commander. Former residents of the al-Manshiyya neighborhood, one of the city’s wealthier areas before the Nakba, described the sorrow they felt as they walked past their old houses, and the pain of seeing what remained of the neighborhood demolished to be replaced by a public recreation area.
Some of the most difficult stories are those of the Palestinian farmers and peasants from the villages of the Jaffa district. They describe how they were forced off of their land, how they managed to stay in Palestine, how the Israeli government handed their land over to Jewish settlers, and how these settlers then hired the same Palestinian farmers to work on their own land as day laborers exploited for the personal profit of the Jewish settler off the produce of the land that Palestinians had cultivated for generations. In fact, after their properties and enterprises were seized or shut down, the vast majority of the Jaffa Palestinians who remained became cheap labor for Jewish employers. Their employment was contingent on their “loyalty” to the new state. And so it was that the people who ran the economic hub of Palestine before 1948, became its orphans feigning loyalty to the ones who orphaned them in order to feed their own children…
During the early 1950s, the State of Israel concentrated the Bedouins in the area of the Sayag (see attached map). Entire tribes were displaced from their lands in the western and southern Negev and transferred to the Sayag area. The state declared a large part of the Sayag area to which the Bedouins had been moved as lands over which there was no municipal government. The planning and building law legislated in 1965 zoned all of these lands as agricultural, so implicitly building was forbidden there. Every house already built was therefore considered to be “illegal”. Thus with a single sweeping political decision, the State of Israel transformed the entire Bedouin population into law-breakers, though the Bedouins’ only crime was to exercise their basic human right to housing.
In the late 1960s, a new stage commenced, in the policy of concentrating the Bedouins into narrower areas. The government started to establish a small number of townships, in which it intended to concentrate all the Bedouins. In order to encourage them to move to these townships, it began a policy of demolishing houses, destroying crops, confiscating herds of sheep and goats and denying basic services such as water, electricity, access roads, schools, clinics, sewage systems, etc.
http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2007/06/07/ethnic-cleansing-of-bedouin-in-israel/
Are you missing the part where the people involved were given prison sentences, and the government apologized and paid reparations to the village?
One attack does not a national policy make.
In how many liberal democracies would you recieve a short prison sentence for massacring the inhabitants of a village?
And it’s irrelevant anyway, you wanted evidence of ongoing ethnic cleansing after 1948 and there it is. It’s irrelevant whether it was OK’d by the government, it happened. We know about this because it was too big not to notice but there were hundreds of smaller incidents throughout the 1950s, and those incidents have continued until today.
It’s not irrelevant if you say “We know about this because it was too big not to notice but there were hundreds of smaller incidents throughout the 1950s, and those incidents have continued until today.”
How far are you prepared to go to apologise for ethnic cleansing? That’s quite an anti-American position to take. We recently fought a war to prevent ethnic cleansing.
Hell of a lot of Apache running around these days, aren’t there?
I’m not an apologist for ethnic cleaning, but what do you want? Israel’s surrounded by people who want them dead. They’re under constant attack by people who blow themselves up on buses and fire rockets at their cities. You really expect me to feel bad for the people who do that? My pity’s for the Israelis. I don’t care if the Palestinians live or die.
That’s a very anti-American way of looking at the whole thing. That’s quite an unsavory set of views.
Yep, I’m a real bastard that way. America never overreacts to acts of terrorism against it.
She’s a Christian? Pardon my ignorance. 
But I think the point should be stressed that hijab predates both Christianity and Islam.
Wow. :eek:
I really can’t say anything to that statement. 
This statement of mine is incorrect. In fact, the suspects from the Ramallah police station lynching were arrested by Israeli forces.
I made this error because of a vague memory I had that some Palestinian suspects in a high-profile killing were imprisoned in Palestine. It turns out that this case was the killing of right-wing Israeli tourism minister Rehavam Zeevi. Five Palestinian suspects were imprisoned in Jericho for the killing, until they were forcibly taken out of Palestinian custody five years later by the IDF.
I will concede that Israel’s record for arresting Jewish suspects for anti-Palestinian crimes is better than the PA’s record for arresting Palestinians for crimes against Israelis. Actually, I couldn’t find any cases besides the Zeevi case. The Palestinian police have been repeatedly criticized for failing to pursue terrorism suspects, including those who killed Americans in Gaza in 2003. Although they have been quite successful in arresting members of their rival Hamas.
And regardless of that, the Palestinians still must have their rights to political and economic liberty, and the settlements must stop.
You are a liar. Goodbye.