Problem with the law? Come to Canada as a refugee.

The BBQ Pit
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It’s pretty much a truism that people gaining entry into Canada by claiming refugee status are here for the duration. Never mind if they are hardcore criminals who are capable of the shotgun murder of an innocent young women. Never mind if their only claim to refugee status is that they don’t wish to fight in Iraq and have deserted (despite their voluntary enlistment) because “We’ve seen what happens to other deserters and we are very concerned about his personal, physical and psychological well-being if he was removed to the United States.” Right. But I digress.

I digress because I am livid, more than outraged, after having been reminded of the case of one Mahmoud Mohammad Issa Mohammad. You see, he is a terrorist. Or, if you prefer as he does, a “freedom fighter”. He and his freedom fighting pals killed an innocent passenger when they attacked a plane at the Athens airport in 1968. He was caught, tried, convicted, and sentenced to 17 years in prison (a rather modest sentence, but, again, I digress). The feeble Greek government caved into terrorist blackmail and released him shortly thereafter.

Some time later, he applied for and was granted admission to Canada. And, some time after that, it became known that not only was he a convicted murderer (something he hadn’t thought to share with Canadian immigration authorities) but that he had made other, rather substantial lies on his initial application as well. So, as a result of those lies and omissions, in 1988, our friend was ordered deported from Canada. End of story? Not on your life.

Presumably aware of Canada’s coddling and overindulgent Refugee Board, and especially its impotence in actually ever deporting the pretenders and the outright criminals, Mr. Mohammad then decided to apply for refugee status. And what a terrific move that was on his part. Despite repeated orders for his deportation, despite the fact that he has been in Canada ILLEGALLY for 20 years, he not only remains here, he is living rather comfortably thank you. This is sick, sick, sick. Yet another fine example of “the Canadian way” in action.

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[QUOTE=KarlGauss]
It’s pretty much a truism that people gaining entry into Canada by claiming refugee status are here for the duration. Never mind if they are hardcore criminals who are capable of the shotgun murder of an innocent young women. Never mind if their only claim to refugee status is that they don’t wish to fight in Iraq and have deserted (despite their voluntary enlistment) because “We’ve seen what happens to other deserters and we are very concerned about his personal, physical and psychological well-being if he was removed to the United States.” Right. But I digress.

I digress because I am livid, more than outraged, after having been reminded of the case of one Mahmoud Mohammad Issa Mohammad. You see, he is a terrorist. Or, if you prefer as he does, a “freedom fighter”. He and his freedom fighting pals killed an innocent passenger when they attacked a plane at the Athens airport in 1968. He was caught, tried, convicted, and sentenced to 17 years in prison (a rather modest sentence, but, again, I digress). The feeble Greek government caved into terrorist blackmail and released him shortly thereafter.

Some time later, he applied for and was granted admission to Canada. And, some time after that, it became known that not only was he a convicted murderer (something he hadn’t thought to share with Canadian immigration authorities) but that he had made other, rather substantial lies on his initial application as well. So, as a result of those lies and omissions, in 1988, our friend was ordered deported from Canada. End of story? Not on your life.

Presumably aware of Canada’s coddling and overindulgent Refugee Board, and especially its impotence in actually ever deporting the pretenders and the outright criminals, Mr. Mohammad then decided to apply for refugee status. And what a terrific move that was on his part. Despite repeated orders for his deportation, despite the fact that he has been in Canada ILLEGALLY for 20 years, he not only remains here, he is living rather comfortably thank you. This is sick, sick, sick. Yet another fine example of “the Canadian way” in action.
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Do a “Search and Replace” for the word Canada to the word Norway and you’d have a subject I could tell many, many stories about. (Hey, at least you guys appear to have a law-bound immigration requirement to actually learn the language. Turns out we don’t.)

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He appears to have been a productive member of society since entering Canada more than 20 years ago. According to the story, he’s committed no crime, and is presumably paying his taxes.

Aren’t there people currently doing evil in Canada somewhere? Pit them.

Anyway, your Wiki link says the shotgun guys all moved to Canada as young children. One was deported and the others are in jail. Do you realize how much lighter their sentences would have been in Jamaica, if they were convicted at all?

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You really aren’t, aren’t you.

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[QUOTE=Gukumatz ]
Do a “Search and Replace” for the word Canada to the word Norway and you’d have a subject I could tell many, many stories about. (Hey, at least you guys appear to have a law-bound immigration requirement to actually learn the language. Turns out we don’t.)
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Given the amount of people that I have seen in Toronto over the past several decades, its a paper law at best. Not that I am overly concerned with that mind you , anyone who settles in either Toronto or Montreal is going to be partially fluid in either language within a certain amount of years.

Declan

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[QUOTE=KarlGauss]
You really aren’t, aren’t you.
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When come back, bring substance.

All you’ve got in the OP is a little xenophobia masquerading as RO.

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[QUOTE=KarlGauss]
…Never mind if their only claim to refugee status is that they don’t wish to fight in Iraq and have deserted (despite their voluntary enlistment) because “We’ve seen what happens to other deserters and we are very concerned about his personal, physical and psychological well-being if he was removed to the United States.” Right. But I digress.
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Not anymore - Canada deports U.S. deserter who opposes Iraq War

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And yet, should you be fleeing persecution based on your sexual orientation, you may well be returned to sender with all apparent dispatch.

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I support sending deserters back to the US under the reasons stated in that article; I do not support sending gay people back to countries where they will be persecuted, for the reasons stated in that article. I do support deporting with all deliberate speed immigrants who have been convicted of lying about their criminal pasts. I don’t support deporting immigrants with Canadian citizenship who commit crimes in Canada - Canadian jail is where they belong now.

Just so’s y’all know. :slight_smile:

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]
When come back, bring substance.

All you’ve got in the OP is a little xenophobia masquerading as RO.
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All you’ve got is unfounded accusations of no substance and xenophobia. Karl’s right.

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[QUOTE=rowrrbazzle]
All you’ve got is unfounded accusations of no substance and xenophobia. Karl’s right.
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Riiiiight. Wanna try disagreeing with something I posted, then?