Historically and linguistically, “Mohammedan” is an old-fashioned word for “Muslim.”
Historically and linguistically, it carries no connotation that Muslims worship Muhammad as a divine being in the same way that Christians worship Jesus.
Whether it is considered offensive or out-of-style is a different issue than this reason you’ve called it “problematic.”
What Wheaton is saying is that the central tenet of Christianity is that Jesus is God, and Islam rejects the deity of Jesus. Christians accept the Yahweh of the OT, and also accept Jesus as a manifestation of Yahweh (simplifying Trinity theology here).
As these three faiths have evolved historically, each has based its premises upon additional divine…uh…clarifications.
Christianity generally takes the Old Testament Yahweh and gives him a son who is also fully Yahweh.
Thus, Christians believe in the same God that Jews do, but Jews (who do not accept the deity of Jesus) do not believe in the same God that Christians do.
Muslims generally take the OT Yahweh and add his revelations about the prophet Mohammed and the clarifications contained in the Qur’an.
Thus, Muslims believe in the same God that Jews do, but Jews (who do not accept Mohammed as a prophet channeling Yahweh) do not believe in the same God that Muslims do.
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The game for promoters of a new monotheistic religion is to take the other guy’s chief and tweak him into a new chief.
But for the previous faithful, there’s no way that tweaking leaves their God intact.
Islam rejects the deity of Jesus. Jesus is “fully God” for Christians (summarizing a lot of theology for you here, and ignoring Francis for the moment).
Anyone who thinks Muslims worship Jesus does not understand Islam (Mohammend gave Jesus prophet-hood, but not deity-hood).
Hope that helps.
Or you can just use science as a basis for epistemology. LOL
Are you able to find some examples of Muslim theologians who promote the idea that Jesus is God?
Look, I’m not here to defend the Trinity, or any other theology.
But there is a fundamental difference between Muslims and Christians (as well as Jews and Christians) over whether or not Jesus is God. If you demote Jesus, you are not worshiping the same God. You can’t have Christianity without the Trinity.
It seems to me BigT has this core observation, we can leave aside the typical pointless pedantry that is frequently had here over someone using a term that no one but the elderly and the prejudiced use among the westerners now in my experience, or inaccurate summaries of the islamic beliefs, this is the key
By the logic they apply, if they have said the Jews worship the same God as them, then they are liars about their motivation, if they are consistent and deny the Jews worship the same God then they are consistent and not liars.
Since all of these religions are most likely made up, there isn’t actually a way to worship a “same God”. “God” is too poorly defined a concept to make many claims at all.
This leaves looking at it historically, where Islam and Christianity are most certainly branches of the same tree. I think that’s good enough to count as the “same God”
Wheaton College can legally do whatever they like. But this sort of thing does push them away from “credible university with a very Christian spin” into “whackadoodle” territory.
Jews think Jesus was just some fellow (assuming he existed at all), certainly not God. Yet most Christians believe they worship “the same god” as the Jews.
Assuming that is true, it doesn’t make any logical sense for these very same Christians to exclude the Muslim god as “the same”. If anything, the Muslims’ god is closer to the Christian one than the Jewish god is, on the Jesus score - at least in Islam, Jesus is a significant prophet.
In summary, a three-way spilt (Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship different gods) can be logically supported, but not a split that has Jews and Christians worshipping one god, and Muslims worshipping another.
That is not true. If that was the case the Jewish god would be considered a different god, and that is clearly contrary to Christian teaching. Not believing in the divinity of Jesus makes you not a Christian, it does not mean you worship a different god.
Again, just because Muslims (and Jews) are not Christian, does not mean they worship a different god.
Not sure about that first clause but, they’re pretty well regarded nationally.
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Wheaton bills itself as a Liberal Arts college but does offer Biology courses. “God’s creation” is mentioned on the page where classes are listed–but several include evolution. And there’s nothing at all about “Intelligent Design.” The Community Covenant page refers to Biblical Standards in living–but doesn’t mention Biblical Inerrancy–as the Southern Baptists do.
Fine trappings does not necessarily make a fine person (or college). But I am sure Wheaton is ok as far as colleges go.
I think big big business, religions, and politics cause too much trouble in our species. There are almost 8 billion people on the planet and I think that at least 70% (approximate ratio of adults) should develop their own beliefs and keep them private.
People should be able to do as we please as long as it does not greatly hinder someone else doing what they please.
Oh, yeah, and about the topic: it seems as if the college does not like debate upon its founding principles. On the other hand, the professor should be aware that as a staff member of the college, what she may do even in her personal life may have an effect on the college. She boobooed, she pays.
The point of the OP is that nothing she said is remotely against orthodox Christian doctrine. She didn’t say she believed Islamic teachings are compatible with Christian teachings, she just said they “worship the same God”
Before founding Islam Mohamad spent time with both Christian and Jewish communities and some of the teachings of both groups were incorporated in the founding of Islam, this explains why Islam kneels before a Abrahamic God
Yeah, circa 2001 one of my master’s thesis committee members made me change spelling throughout my draft from Moslem to Muslim (except for direct quotes from sources). My topic related to a primarily Muslim-inhabited area, but was not religious, per se. “Mohammedan” I think would have made him send me back to the drawing board.
You are not in the Christian mainstream if you’re not Trinitarian, but you’re still a Christian, just a misguided heretic one; in the old days at least they could try and beat it out of ya…
And somehow I am reminded of a visit to the Russian Orthodox monastery at Sergiev Posad back in 1995. We were there on the Feast of the Trinity and had been cautioned by our group leader to dress respectfully, cover our heads and shoulders and legs, prepare for lots of incense and serious hunched-over little old Russian babushkas who remembered a more observant Orthodox time before the Russian Revolution, etc.
When we arrived, we found lots of 20-something Russian chicks in spandex pants and tank tops, and a rather carnival atmosphere. I had asked our (American, Slavic linguistics professor) group leader what the Feast of the Trinity was about, and he confessed that he really didn’t know the details, and I should approach one of the little old babushkas when we got there and ask. So I did.
The answer? “Oh, you know, the Trinity. Jesus, Mary, Joseph…”
Even my Jewish agnostic self knew more than that. Sheesh.