So, Chief Dumbar, you are actually saying that cheaper weed will make people stop eating. Then, presumably because they have the munchies, and are broke from all the pot they bought at a discount, they will go out and steal. :rolleyes: Are you f’ing serious? If this is the best that the opposition can do…
Can anyone here make any kind of cogent argument against this measure? Because for sure folks like Chief Dumbass haven’t been able to do it.
The measure is now predicted to pass, so I guess Chief Dumbar and his donut eating cronies will have to find actual criminals to catch. The horror.
I don’t see why a company should be able to able to test for legal substance use outside of work hours. Unless you’re using heavy machinery or driving a train or something there is absolutely no reason to allow it.
Marijuana use will not be legal in California if 19 passes- it merely won’t be against state laws. It’s still going to be against federal law to possess it. Unless federal law states only that it’s illegal to buy, sell, or transport it, not to use it, I suspect that federal employees like postal workers will still face sanctions if they use.
Presumably, regardless of the [quasi-]legality of using it outside the workplace, employers would still want to prohibit working while under the influence. Is there currently a test for marijuana intoxication, as opposed to simply having THC in one’s system?
In the past, one of the obstacles against marijuana legalization that I’ve heard thrown up is that there’s no practical way for police to determine a driver’s intoxication level, as they can for alcohol with a breathalyzer. Assuming that hasn’t changed, and there is nothing in place similar to blood alcohol limits for DUI, what are the legal implications of working or driving while stoned?
(And although some may staunchly disagree, assume for a moment that it is possible for one to be “too stoned to drive,” or that there exists a level of intoxication where driving reflexes are impaired.)
Just thinking that postal workers working the package line in a legal-pot state might be tempted to, you know . . . reseal certain damaged-in-shipping packages . . .
I had a long discussion with little Dan about this the other day. My concern is that if the Justice Dept allows the open sale of marijuana in CA, then it strengthens the resolve of other states to overrule what they see as bad federal laws. This could range from prayer in schools to abortion restrictions. How would you justify sending in federal marshals to enforce an injunction against teacher-led prayer in school while letting stores openly advertise a federally banned substance?
I don’t see how you got from legalized marijuana to teachers leading prayer in public schools Dan. It’s not like the law will force anyone to use marijuana if they choose not to.
That’s just hilarious. Some people think all drugs = heroin. So I’ll be so broke from buying that $60 quarter bag that I’ll have to steal my Cheeto’s and M&Ms. Do these morons realize that a quarter ounce of pot is a LOT and would last your average stoner longer than a weekend? It’s not like coke, where you get a tiny little gram for $100 and it’s gone in 15 minutes and so is your high. Coke is horribly uneconomical. Nobody starves to death and turns into a life of crime from buying weed. If that were the case, you’d see college students ripping off 7-11s about every ten minutes in this country.
As I mentioned in another thread, I fully expect the usual suspects who scream about states’ rights when guns are involved to embrace legalization of pot on the same grounds.
The employer has the right to have people working for it that are not impaired. Pot does not leave the system as fast as alcohol does. Someone can get drunk on Friday night and show up to work Monday morning functional. Not so with pot, which can take up to 30 days to clear out of one’s system.
I, for one, would like to see a cite that getting high Friday night will leave you still high on Monday. Also, can you hook me up with your dealer? Because you must be getting some amazing shit.
