Not an insult, a typo. Maybe a Freudian slip. If I choose to insult Ed Zotti he will assuredly know about it.
No, he doesn’t get it, either.
Let’s all try and guess how popular this kid is.
From the link:
Doesn’t sound like a trend that’s sweeping the nation does it?
Honestly, SkipMagic, there isn’t a thread for posters who disagree with the proposal to engage in discussion, except with each other. Many, many, many, many, many, many, many non-snide explanations of why we’re disagreeing have been completely ignored by those with whom we wish to debate.
Uh, so what I’m seeing here is that the intelligent, learned posters of the SDMB are practically revolting, not because they aren’t allowed to verbally abuse their fellow participants, but rather because they’re only allowed to do so if they avoid using the most extreme words possible.
If “So-and-so is the world’s foremost argument for the annihilation of the planet” isn’t sufficient insult for you, if you feel stifled and constrained just because you can’t call someone a fucker – whatever that means – then I would suggest that it’s possible the board might actually be better off without you.
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So far it hasn’t been at all clear what terms can be used. Swear words are allowed this time but not that time. Words with a sexual connotation are a sticking point. I can’t call someone a cuntlapper apparently but can I call them a knob-polisher, is it OK if it makes a mod laugh? I don’t know and the thread for clearing up the confusion has only added to it, for me at least.
Please post more often.
Seriously.
If I could ask a serious question here, for a moment (and I think this may have already been asked), why are the restrictions only in regards to other members. It seems like, under these rules, I can’t say “fuck you” to Poster X, but I start a thread, saying to, for instance, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi or House Minority Leader John Boehner (depending on my politiical preference) “fuck you”. While I concede that it’s more likely that Poster X will read the thread and get his feelings hurt han either Mrs. Pelosi or Mr. Boehner, it seems that if the term is objectionable, than it’s objectionable, whether it’s addressed to another poster or not. Or am I missing something here?
Posters have already given you a few zillion options, many of them quite workable if applied fairly and consistently. Basic common sense would be a good start. Put down a rule that posts consisting primarily of cursing or unnecessary obscenities may garner a warning and repeated offenses may result in suspension or banning. Base the rule on the fairly sound premise that uncontrolled verbal vomit not only puts off other customers; it’s also mind-numbingly boring. Then when the rare Tourette’s case spews off, apply it.
Or don’t. This ugly brouhaha isn’t because The Pit morphed into a den of potty-mouthed slime. A couple of your staff made questionable calls in The Pit, then took umbrage when called on them. The problem isn’t The Pit; it’s your lack of level-headed oversight. It can be done without public reprimands or humiliation. You could have just stepped in, taken whatever corrective action needed then firmly declared the discussions closed. Instead you listened ONLY to the aggrieved parties closest to you and decided the solution was to sanitize the location to the point it couldn’t happen that way again.
I’m done with this. Do whatever you want. It’s your business, your board and your responsibility. Choose who you’ll listen to and why. Good luck.
Well, you could say what you said, wordy as it is.
Of course, everything you said boils down to a very short sentence, which is ‘Fuck off if you don’t like it here.’
Some of us adults prefer the direct to the verbose, and as adults, don’t need a self-employed parent figure to decide for us how we should express our thoughts.
How about “No sentences involving genitalia”?
Don’t like it?
Audit you, buddy!
Quick response to Martini Enfield: I hoped I didn’t need to front load my rule suggestions with my credentials, but here they are: I am not in favor of any change to the Pit whatsoever. None. I hate this, and I completely understand all the outrage and frustration. I have always enjoyed the Pit as a wild and wooly addition to the boards…somewhere where you need to be a quick and nimble poster to avoid being exposed as a complete idiot.
But…change is coming. Whether we like it (a few of us) or don’t (most of us). This “Proposed language restrictions” thread is the closest we’ve come to actual discussions with Ed. I would like everyone - even the people who think the Pit is absolutely fine and any language restrictions are absolutely horrible - to try and come up with something they can live with. That’s what I tried to do. I don’t particularly love any of my proposed rules. I don’t like making the mods “untouchable.” I don’t like having the mods running around fielding emails about whether a post is too “dirty.” And I don’t like saying any word - ANY WORD - is strictly verboten. But I can live with those.
Something is going to happen. You and I could sit down and bitch about the way the Pit is changing for three hours and not disagree once. Won’t change the fact that something is going to happen. I’m just trying to help draft the inevitable rules to minimize their daily impact.
Guess I’ll be quoting Freudian Slit as “unattributed” from now on.
I hear what you’re saying, but it’s too complicated to administer - we’d have to differentiate between “fuck off” (OK) and “fuck you” (not OK) and “get fucked” (who knows?) and on down the line. It’s no great imposition not to ask people to direct variants of fuck at other posters.
We’ve never had any such threat that I ever heard about and I wasn’t told to do this by the higher-ups. We just had people spewing on fairly rare occasions and I didn’t like it.
Everyone loves free speech until it’s directed at them.
We’re trying to establish a (very) basic level of civility. If you go into a bar and sit next to a guy and he says, “[Some famous person] can go fuck himself,” you might think he’s obnoxious but so what. If he looks at you and says, “Go fuck yourself,” them’s fightin’ words. Simple as that.
Does that mean you’ll be enforcing a two-drink minimum?
'Cause that would be awesome.