Protecting the President's Family

I know President Bush and his wife and daughters have Secret Service protection, as does his dad and mom, due to his being a former President and First Lady.

What about extended family members, cousins, aunts, nieces and nephews? How about his brother, Jeb, who’s the governor of Florida? Does he also have proctection from the Secret Service, or does Florida provide him protection directly?

What happened after Sept 11? I know the President and his family were whisked away for their protection…was Gov Jeb whisked away for protection, or did his status as Florida’s governor mean other priorities were in play? (I ask because although I live in Florida, I didn’t hear anything about Jeb being taken to a secure bunker. Granted of course, there were more important things to pay attention to. :frowning: )

All former Presidents and their immediate families have secret service protection if they want it, so that means Bush the Former would be protected. The only people who can’t refuse protection are the current President and VP.

I dunno about Jeb though.

What does the Secret Service consider “immediate family?” What about Laura’s parents? (GWB’s in-laws?)

Normally, the Governer of a state has protection provided by the state’s state police or capital police.

I know that here in our glorious state of MN, Govn’r Jesse Ventura was protected by the State Police. We had many a battle over this when Jesse was promoting his books, TV shows, and XFL football games.

In FL, IIRC, the Capital Police are charged with ensuring that public officials, state employees and visitors in the Capitol and other state owned buildings and facilities are protected. So Jeb would be surrounded by Capital Police.

“Where one burns books, one will, in the end, burn people.” - Heinrich Heine

Being a UK resident I am not completly sure on protection detail in the US.

However, I strongly doubt that the gov’ of Florida was taken to a bunker. This is for a number of reasons.

  1. Only VIP’s who are vital to maintain a working government would be taken underground or on Air Force One. This is so diplomacy can still happen and counter action can be taken if needs be. I.e. The presidents ‘football’ which is a briefcase containing ‘The BIG RED BUTTON’ (nuclear etc).

  2. On doing some brief research I cannot find any information on any direct risk to the life of the gov’ of Florida so there would be no need to take him to a bunker. However due to hightened security his personal protection would have been placed on a higher state of alert. He maybe related to the President but his status would not have been that big to grant such high levels of security.

President Bush directly after and during the events of 9/11 was taken aboard Air Force One. This is standard procedure. The modified Boing 474 was also escourted by F-16 fighter Jets. Some may question taking the president air bourne but this is the safest place for him during such events. He is not in a single place so it would be harder to pin point him etc. Also Air Force One is like a flying tank. It can actually withstand a PULSE from a nuclear blast. (this was not just made up for the Harrison Ford film, it is an actual feature of the plane).


Just for your information.

In Britain there is no actual ‘Secret Service’. The British secret service is MI5 and MI6. James Bond, 007 etc etc.

The job of protecting the Royal family is the job of The Metropolitan Police (London). It is a unit of elite detectives (about 300 strong, 50 civilian staff). They are called SO14 (Special Operations Unit 14). They will normally be called in the press ‘Royal Detectives’, ‘Personal Protection Officers’ etc.

The job of protecting Diplomats (Tony Blair etc) is also the job of the Metropolitan Police (London). It is a different unit of elite detectives (again about 300-400 strong). These officers are called SO16 (Special Operations Unit 16).

These units operate on a low key, discreet basis. It may seem that British VIPs have little or no protection but trust me they do. All bodyguards train with the elite SAS army unit. They are expert marksmen (all are armed with Glock 9MM handguns). They also are trained in self defence and unarmed combat.

On top of this there is SO17 which protect buildings like Buckingham Palace and the Parliament building (Where Big Ben is). There is also the ‘Special Escourt Group’ which is a unit of highly skilled drivers and motorcicle outriders.
The Queen (for her Golden Jubillee) was given a new state limousine. It cost £10 million (roughly $17 million, i think). It is bulletproof, bombproof - to an extent. It has anti-mine cladding, flat run tyres (ie the car can drive perfectly if the tyres are shot at. The whole car can also be sealed off in case of a gas attack. In total, for the royal family, there are about 20 limousines.

The diplomats mainly use Jaguars. These have the same features as mentioned above. They use ‘normal looking cars’ so as not to look out of place in London traffic and thus to divert from a potential security risk.

Also, there is SO19. This is another elite unit which specialises in ‘Marksmen’. This unit is responsible for rooftop snipers etc. These are rarely used due to the simple fact that they are not needed that often. I last read they were used after 9/11 and on the first year memorial. On top of this, when you see the old fashioned looking soldiers on horses etc (Changing of the guard etc) they are not only there for pagintary but they do actually have a security role and harry more modern weaponary consealed in their uniforms. If you look closely you will see the earpieces under their helmet straps.

I think that is about all the useless, boring information I can inflict on you regarding British security. I just realised I wrote all that for nothing. Ah well I can’t be bothered to delete it now.

email if you have any questions.

Enjoy.

Kris. (chrisowens@ntlworld.com)

That was actually quite interesting, Kris. :slight_smile:

I got this great imagine of some poor bastards attacking the Queen.

1966: A concrete block falls onto the Queen’s car during a visit to Belfast.

1974: Kidnappers try to grab Princess Anne from outside Buckingham Palace

1981: A teenager fires six blanks shots at the Queen’s horse during Trooping of the Colour.

1982: Michael Fagan breaks into the Queen’s bedroom.

1994: A demonstrator fires a starter pistol at Prince Charles in Sydney.

You don’t need to imagine. :slight_smile:

(I have soooo got to get out more)

And who can forget in 1988 when Reggie Jackson tried to kill the Queen?

No idea on the OP, but welcome, kris. I think you’re going to fit in here just fine. Great info.

That’s not the umpire, that’s Enrico Polazzo!

Nonsense! the SDMB is designed for people like us - a nice cozy room, a computer, and ~30,000 of the “smartest, hippest folks on the planet (plus a few total dipsticks).” SDMB eliminates the need to get out.

Welcome aboard!

Kris, that was a great second post!

I had actually wondered what the British version of the Secret Service was, so thanks.

lol.

I am glad you liked one of my first posts.

Chris.

Just thought.

Talking about Air Force One…

In Britain the royals, when traveling, use something called 'The Royal Flight. It is a squardron of the RAF (Royal Air Force), 32 Squadron to be precise. They have specially modified planes and helicopters.

Diplomats use these sometimes as well but since 9/11 this is under review. Currently when Tony Blair travels they ‘rent’ a Boeing 747 from British Airways specially to transport him and his people, i.e. advisors etc.

The MoD (Ministry of Defence) is looking into purchasing a new plane very similar to that of Air Force One’s Boeing 747’s. This is because of the mew security risks posed since 9/11 and they think more security measures are needed. This would be for the use of mainly Diplomats but the Royals as well.

Since the Prime Minister (Tony Blair) would be the main person to use this new plane the Britsh media (mainly the newspapers) have dubbed it ‘Blair Force One’. lol.

Kris

It should be noted that Congress passed legislation in 1997 limiting Secret Service protection to former Presidents for a mere ten years. Lots more info about the subject at the Secret Service website. Of course, everything has changed since 9-11; no doubt there have been changes in the Secret Service that will not be announced on their website. Or maybe they have been announced. I just read enough to be sure about the ten-year limit.

Oh, and Kris, interesting stuff about the British VIP protection. I recently read an article about SO-19 and some of the other elite police units in your country. They seemed quite impressive.