How about the Perversion of Ethics and an Abomination Law, or REAL for short? Or to get right to the point, the Fuck You All Law.
a. The CPR would possibly explain the ribs, but not the femur and other fractures.
b. Yes the court did find that Terri didn’t want a feeding tube. Note that it was all based upon supposed statements that she made to Mr. Schiavo (who I believe assaulted her) and other Schiavo family members. This is counterbalanced by statements to the Schindlers that she didn’t feel this way. Also we have the statements of Mr. Schiavo (according to family and firends) that even he didn’t know what she wanted for the first seven years after the incident.
c. There is also “common sense”. When most people say they wouldn’t want life sustaining measures they are talking about respirator support not feeding tubes. She is known to be a devout Catholic is it likely that she would have wanted to be killed via a method a church as called murder? Hell, have the people I know thought she was on a respirator. Are we to believe that a twenty year something year old person not in the medical profession expressed a desire to not have feeding tubes in casual conversation? Does that pass the Occam’s razor test?
d. Mrs. Schiavo was never proven to have an eating disorder it was instead offered as a possible explanation to explain the collaspe of an otherwise young healthy woman (that is if you were not considering abuse as an explanation).
e. During the malpractice litigation Michael testified that he needed the money in order to care for Terri the rest of their lives. Once the money came in he soon started actions that would culminate in her being disconnected from the feeding tube. Had he expressed these attitudes during the litigation it is unlikely that he would have received as much money.
I know how we can solve this for most people. Maybe the Glenn Beck show www.glennbeck.com will offer a million dollars for Michael to take a polygraphy examination. They raised almost seven million dollars in pledges for him to give up custody to the parents. I pledged two hundred dollars to the effort and would be happy to offer at least that much towards the “Polygraph fund”
Most people who are not running around criminally libelling Mr. Schiavo already consider this solved.
Doppleganger - If you really want answers to all your questions (which I doubt), maybe you should look here. And while you’re at it, why don’t you explain to me why Terri Schiavo’s potassium level became abnormally low as a result of her husband’s beating, why all the bone damage and bruising you mention is consistent with a fall and vigorous CPR by paramedics, and why Michael Schiavo won a malpractice lawsuit against his wife’s doctors for not correctly diagnosing his wife’s bulimia when the doctors could have said that her condition was not the result of bulimia at all, but of traumatic physical abuse, which they would have known, as they were her doctors and had been closely monitoring her physical condition while trying to help the couple become pregnant. You can also explain to me just why exactly the Schindlers never brought any of this up when Michael was at their daughter’s bedside night and day for seven years, flying her all across the country for experimental treatments, giving her every form of therapy imaginable in order to restore her mental capacity, why they spoke so highly of him and even suggested that he find new love and move on with his life, only to change their story when the money from the malpractice suit was awarded and they didn’t get any. You can also explain to me why, despite her evil husband and obviously substandard medical care, Terri Schiavo spent fifteen years with no cerebral cortex laying helpless in bed without succumbing to an infected bedsore and pneumonia, when most in her condition wouldn’t have made it past ten.
Then, if you can, explain to me why I keep getting involved in this argument over and over again when it’s like beating my head into a brick wall and doesn’t do anyone any good. Because I’m seriously starting to think I’ve got some real masochistic tendencies here.
What makes you think they ARE fractures?
Bone scans don’t show fractures. Bone scans show areas of increased metabolic activity in bone - which can be caused by numerous other things besides fractures. (The usual use of a bone scan is to look for evidence of metastatic cancer.) Arthritis, tumors, and metabolic disorders of bone such as Paget’s dsease can all cause positive bone scans. (Funny how the terrisfight.org people conveniently neglect to mention that. Of course, they also conveniently forget to mention that eating disorders can lead to ostopenia, and patients with osteopenia can fracture their bones simply in the course of daily activities. I suspect the dissemination of accurate medical information isn’t one of their top priorities.)
You point to various obvious things that could point to wrongdoing. You are no Sherlock Holmes, you’re not pointing out anything mindbogglingly insightful.
The Schiavos live or lived in a country where the slightest wrongdoing gets investigated to death. Where the investigative authorities and the technology they have available are the best in history. Where litigation is an artform and the teams of investigators surrounding litigation are the best there is. Where medicine and medical science and medical litigation and forensics are like nothing the world has ever seen.
Terry Schiavo’s situation was investigated. It was litigated. And yet nothing has come of that. But you conclude not that there is therefore probably nothing in your evil little pile of innuendo.
Oh no, you conclude that futher investigation is required. Because obviously the pros wouldn’t have thought to investigate stuff that is obvious to some jerk on the internet. Of course not.
Dumbass.
I would be willing to give a few bucks to help friend Doppleganger buy a clue here?
man what a dumb fuck :rolleyes:
Now I understand, if you throw down a couple hundred bucks toward a cause you have a vested psychological need to cling towards that belief.