Pictures of Roig-Franzia and Allen, respectively. For those who (like me) like to put a punched face to a name.
Yeah, Roig-Franzia looks the definition of douchebag, particularly the subset that overestimates their intellectualism and wears diamond ear studs and sandals. Think the type of person who’s pompous in the extreme, but not quite smart enough to be a college professor.
I thought part of the beauty of being in management was that you didn’t have to resort to punching people in the face, no matter the provocation.
Because you can fire his ass or change his assignment to the mailroom or some other unbecoming thing.
Why let an untalented hack get you so riled when you hold all the cards. Smile knowingly and fire his ass. Then give him a trashy reference. Just as rewarding, if not more so.
When I was younger, a friend of mine got into a protracted shoving match with a co-worker. When it was broken up, they agreed to settle it out back at a later date, when neither of them was working. I quickly dubbed the rematch McBrawl II: The Rumpus by the Dumpster. Myf riend won, in a walk. He was one of those geeky, nerdy guys who gets a growth spurt and is suddenly 6’2" and 175 pounds. his opponent was one of those geeky guys who gets the wrong kind of growth spurt and is suddenly 5’2", 175.
I think newsrooms could stand a few more fistfights. If that attitude carried over into the publication, I might subscribe to actual newspapers again.
See, this is the problem with old school journalists. If it had been bloggers, now, we’d have an awesome cellphone video to go with it!
To be fair, Allen looks like he’s about to flip out even in his publicity photo. Basically, I think one could basically forsee this conflict happening just from looking at the photos of the two men.
But no, just because someone calls you a cocksucker doesn’t mean you get to punch them in the face, especially if they’re an employee. And it can/should get you arrested for battery.
Someone calls me a cocksucker, unless they are well armed, they are going to get punched. Even if it gets me fired. And as a boss, I’d fire both of them. One for insubordination and verbal abuse, the other for workplace violence. My legal defense to assault and battery is the “fighting words” doctrine, whether it is still good law or not.
Hey, the Germans have a word for that, right there. That’s backpfeifengesicht, if I ever saw it.
‘Oops, my bad!’,‘natch’…really? He went to school to learn how to write YouTube comments?
This pretty much sums up my feelings on it as well.
Everything I know about newspaper editors I learned from movies and comic books. Based on that I would think being called a cocksucker would be pretty far down the list of insults.
I’ve never witnessed anything more than some epic shouting matches (think of a restaraunt setting like Hell’s Kitchen) while at work. My roomate works construction and he had an incident during lunch where they were sitting around a table and some guy was telling a bunch of racist jokes. Apparently not noticing the uncomfortable silence around him he told a few more until one of the other guys, who is half black, punched him in the face a few times.
Let’s try this in In My Humble Opinion. Moved from the Pit.
Gfactor
Pit Moderator
When I looked at that picture of Roig-Franzia I reflexively punched my monitor. I just couldn’t help it. That is a face that was meant for punchin.
I agree that if you’re going to call someone a cocksucker, you better be prepared for some shit to go down. But I still think Allen was out of line.
If I was in a bar and somebody came up to me and called me a cocksucker and I punched them, they’d probably kick me out, if not have me arrested. Is some guy who called me a name really worth that. I’m not saying it’s fair, but that’s just the way our society operates.
I think if Allen had just told the guy to “Shut the fuck up” and then written him up and tried to get him fired ( I can’t recall from the story if Allen was his direct supervisor; if not he might need to go through additional channels to get him canned), he would have been all right. But, like I said before, he gave up the moral high ground when he decided to get physical. That doesn’t make Roig-Franzia any less of an asshole, but it does open Allen up to a lot of trouble and potentially a lawsuit. And knowing how corporate management works they’re probably not going to fire Roig-Franzia now, for fear of facing a lawsuit themselves.
But at least you can take some consolation in the fact that Allen is retiring, after having had a quite stellar career, while Roig-Franzia’s reputation is effectively ruined. If Allen had just fired him without getting physical, it’s doubtful that few people outside the newsroom would have known the details of his departure. But now this incident made the national blogs, and when he goes to apply for another job, there’s going to be no hiding how he behaved at the Post.
When there’s too many pigs for the (already dried up) tits, there’s going to be some scrappin’. I’m a very peaceable man, but calling someone a cocksucker (or other profane term meant to insult) should be expected to be the last thing you’ll say through your natural teeth.
I don’t punch people because it would cost me my job. But if I could haul off and drop a Roig-Franzia without much consequence, I’d savor the opportunity, then “BAM”, I’d drop his ass.
Then I’d say, “Roh Roh, Raggy!. My bad!”
I might even throw a note on him that said, “Philster. FTW!”
In the article linked to in the OP, one of the ‘tags’ for the article is ‘cocksucker’.
Should I click on that?
The reporter’s behavior will either change very soon to one of an adult or he’ll be out of a job.
Yeah, the insult was lame, but that excuse for a story might be worth punching him.
This why I’m a fan of open carry. Folks tend to be a lot more courteous to one another when each has a visible sidearm.
“Baking whistling face”? :dubious:
Will Allen win the Pugilitzer Prize?