Q: Bat Man Evil-Doers

Anyone remember Fasle-Face? He was from the Adam West TV version.

He would put on masks that made him look exactly like the other characters (Bruce Wayne, Commissioner Gordon, etc). But his own natural face looked like one of those cheap translucent plastic deals you get at a discount party shop.

Actually, we’re both right. Chesterfield is his middle name…I forgot the Cobblepot as well as the Oswald.

Gweh…two of my favourites! (Second only to Scarecrow and Harley) I can’t believe I forgot them.

Does the Ventriloquist’s real name ever come up?

The Ventrioloquist has a real name that I can never remember. He did go by the alias of “Quakemaster” during the great Gotham earthquake of '99.

I think his first name’s Arnold, but I’m not sure.

And is Ra’s Al Ghul’s real name actually Ra’s Al Ghul?

Ok, let’s get obscure:

The Outsider: had magical powers, menaced Batman for about 2 years. Real name? Alfred Pennyworth (Alfred died in Detective 328. Turns out that womeone put him in a machine that turned him into The Outsider. By a million-to-one shot, Batman restored Alfred in Detective #356.

Fenris

Oh, yeah…here’s a few more:

KG Beast
Anarky (Lonnie something, 13-year old kid who’s a genius)
Tally-Man
Lock-Up (first appeared on the cartoon, later integrated into the comics)
Deadshot
If we wanna toss in The Dark Knight Returns, we could throw in Superman…although DK2 would require us to toss in Dick Grayson as well (ugh…on second thought, forget it.)

And I don’t see Man-Bat, aka Kirk Langstrom, anywhere. We can throw in his wife Francine, who was also affected by the Man-Bat serum a few times.

Wasn’t their kid affected too, a couple of times?

Fenris

Heh… all right, Fenny… d’ya know the real name of The Condiment King? :smiley:

(And what’s this about four Clayfaces? Or would that be Clayfi?)

Isn’t the Ventriloquist’s name Arnold Wesker?

I think Croc’s might be Waylon something, but I can’t give you a source for that.

Fen, come to think of it, I think they had two kids. I do remember a hairy bat-kid during the Quake. (I don’t think any of the kids ever amounted to “villains” if we want to get technical.)

No.

But I remember the Terrible Trio.

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Yup. In the '40s the original Clayface was just an actor with make-up/disguise skills.

The best Clayface (Matt Hagen) was (IIRC) from World’s Finest in the '50s.

The Protoplasm ClayFace who melted people was at the end of the Marshall Rodgers run of Detective

The awful chick-Clayface was from the '90s.

Fenris

The only villian who hates Robin (any Robin) more than Batman is Crazy Quilt.

There’s Blockbuster

Black Spider

Firebug

Dr. Death

You get 10 SPOOFE points for your assessment of Hagan, Fenny m’boy. Personally… I think he should be the main villain for the next Batman movie (although I heard that they’re gonna start Batman movies anew, ignoring all the previous ones).

In any case, don’t worry about the Condiment King… he was only in the animated series, I believe. Scarecrow stole some of Mad Hatter’s mind-control thingies and made some random guy think he was a supervillain (he wasn’t). It was more of a joke than anything else.

He was also, IIRC, a spoof on Jerry Seinfeld. The other two joke villains were parodies of Roseanne Barr and Gilbert Gottfried.

That was such a great series.

That’s funny, the Condiment King looked and sounded a lot more like Captain Hook (with his big ol’ chin and all) than Jerry Seinfeld.

Dear lord, they didn’t ust make him up for the TV show?!

As neo would say, “Whoa”.

Anyway, is he as annoying as in the TV show?

The correct plural is neither Clayface nor Clayfaces. They are collectively The Mud Pack.

First- The Clayfaces of the comics

#1- Actor Basil Karlo (obviously a combination of Bela Lugosi and Borris Karloff- though he reminds me of Vincent Price as well) was a great star. He was hired as an advisor for a remake of one his films, a horror movie titled “Clayface”. Outraged that anyone would attempt to improve on one of his films or try to outdo his performance, Karlo disguises himself as Clayface and begins killing the cast and crew. Batman and Robin stop him and he spends a decade or two in jail

#2- Matt Hagan was just a thug. Until he found a grotto with a strange pond. The “protoplasm” in the pond allowed Hagan to change his shape. Besides such things as growing claws to attack or wings to fly, Hagan could turn himself into a meteor and set things on flame ( If you doubt check out “Joker Clayface Feud” conveniently reprinted in The Greatest Joker Stories Ever Told). Hagan lost his powers after iirc 24 hours. The cave was destroyed a few times. But Hagan always found it again, or had a secret stash etc. He developed a synthetic protoplasm, but its duration was much shorter than the real thing. Hagan died in Crisis.

#3-Preston Payne- Payne was born with a disfiguring condition (was it acromegally? can’t recall). He looked rather strange. Kids shunned him. So, he turned into a typical bookworm. Eventually he became a scientist at STAR labs. Payne took blood from Hagan in hopes of isolating traces of the protoplasm. He succeedeed and injected himself in hopes of gaining metamorphic powers. It worked and Payne remade himself as a stud. He immediately went on a date. Things went fine until his face began to run like wet clay. The girl screamed. When Payne touched her, she dissolved-as did anyone else Clayface3 touched. Payne made himself an exeskeleton, to protect people and to support his gooey form. He suffered from migraines and fevers which could only be cured by dissolving other humans. All this drove him insane. He eventually fell in love with a wax mannequin. They shared a cell at Arkham Asylum for while.

#4- Lady Clay. The-evil-guy-bent-on-world-domination Lord Kobra wanted an agent with the powers of Clayface. So he experimented on an unnamed woman and got Clayface 4. Her powers are permanent. By copying the shape of other superhumans, she may copy their powers as well (The mudpack ish # ? detective comics).She has no melting touch. But, Lady Clay cannot keep any shape for long. This includes her original appearance. She must spend most of her time as a woman made of mud.

Clayface 1 got out of jail and rounded up the others, including Hagan’s remains. He tricked 3 and 4, drugged them and took samples of their blood. He forced a doctor to mix these with a bit of Hagan and inject him with the results. Karlo gained the powers of the other Clayfaces. The heroine Looker was able to increase Karlo’s dissolving touch beyond his control. He was last seen melting his way to the center of the earth.
Clayface 3 and 4 fell in love and fled Gotham. They lived as hermits for a time. But, Payne’s condition finally forced him to kill again. He melted a passing driver. It is apparently safe to touch him for a short time after he has killed, and the Clayfaces conceived-

#5- Cassius Payne. Why Cassius? “You know, Cassius Clay!” At birth, he was a gooey ball vaguely resembling a fetus. At present he looks like an ordinary boy. He has the shape changing powers of his mother, though he remains untrained in their use. He can dissolve people but this appears to be under his conscious control. Ma and Pa wanted to keep living as hermits until Abattoir, another criminal, kidnapped Cass and forced 3 and 4 to fight Batman. The Clayfaces are currently in custody.

The Animated Series-

The Clayface of Batman Adventures appears to be a mixture of the 1,2, and 3. Matt Hagan was a great actor. A car accident left him looking Phantom-Of-The-Opera/CryptKeeperish, and he thought his career was over. Roland Dagget, head of Dagget Industries, gave Hagan a substance that would allow him to mold his features at will. Hagan recieved fresh supplies of the chemical as long he carried out certain jobs for Dagget. Eventually, Hagan tried to steal the stuff, now called Renu-U . Dagget’s henchmen caught him and forcefed Hagan gallons of Renu-U. Hagan was now a huge clay thing. He could take any shape he chose, but only for brief periods. He fought Batman several times and appeared to die twice. Once he staged his own death( “Hagan said it himself, Alfred. He called it a scene. I wouldn’t be surprise if that ‘body’ they took was just an empty shell.”
In time it appeared that Hagan’s body was deteriorating. He had stolen some rare chemicals wand was about to recieve a life-saving treatment when Batman found him. A misunderstanding occurred, and they fought. Hagan fell into the ocean and seem to fall apart. But something (my guess is pollution) cured him and he returned.

   I wanted to see Clayface on Batman Beyond, but AFAIK he appears in no episode and is not mentioned. A member of the Terrific Trio, resembles Clayface. But, it's a coincidence. An episode involving animated soil and dirt creatures looked promising, but turned out to be unrelated to ClayFace.

RE- Killer Croc
I believe his name is known. IIRC he was an African-American born with a condition making his skin tough and scale-like. He went on to pro-wrestling and then crime.

More precisely, Magma was supposed to be a combination of the Thing and the Human Torch from Marvel Comics’ Fantastic Four. (The other two members, the 2-d Man and Freon, were supposed to be Mr. Fantastic and the Invisible Woman, respectively.) It turned out to be quite the silly episode: they were attacked by a military lunatic resembling Nick Fury, and Batman had a ridiculous piece of machinery fall on him, which he had to shove off himself a la a famous scene in an Lee/Ditko Amazing Spider-Man issue.