Quartz is at least useful as an example of the impressive level of idiocy Brexit supporters are capable of, and the sheer vacuousness of their objectives. For example:
As you can see from his evasiveness he, like most of his ilk, hasn’t got a fucking clue what he voted for, hence the whole “Brexit means brexit” mantra they’ve been hiding behind for the last two years. When people then ask them just what it is they want, they go into denial mode, before then blaming everyone else for the confusion, e.g.:
Any questions you direct at him on just what he means by “it” will just provoke further evasion and handwaving, because that’s all he fucking has.
Your mistake is in thinking I’m a supporter of Brexit. Go on, look back and try to find my impassioned pro-Brexit arguments from before the referendum.
When you demonstrate an understanding of the basics we can proceed to more advanced matters. As evidenced by your first sentence, you have yet to do so. You’re all so caught up in your anti-Brexit righteousness that you’re blinded. How dare those ignorant proles vote for something we don’t like! Howe dare they! Well, unfortunately they did. And I happen to value democracy more than I value EU membership.
It’s a given that you’re a fucking idiot; you always have been, there’s fuck all you can do about that. But at least don’t be coy about your beliefs. You clearly want Brexit to proceed, please do not pretend otherwise.
Really? Can you please raise your IQ above single digits?
Yes I do want Brexit to proceed: the UK voted for it. That doesn’t mean that I like the decision. But the UK is a democracy, not the dictatorship of me - or you - so I accede to and respect the will of the majority.
This is a fool’s view of democracy. Democracy is not a suicide pact. Representative democracy means that the people’s representatives can sometimes take different action than what the people want; indeed that’s what they should do if the people want (and for all we know the view of the people has changed) something that would be profoundly damaging to the country.
In a complex world, foolish and infantile thinking such as yours will lead to catastrophe and suffering.
Fucking wonderful, glad you’ve stopped dicking about with that attempt to prevaricate. Now, why don’t you answer any of the various questions put to you about how it should be implemented, for example: should we “unilaterally abandon all EU treaties and trade deals?”
Well, y’all don’t really DO the remittance man thing any more, do you? You cut that strategy out of your toolbox, and eventually those putzes are going to accumulate.
Mind you, I’m profoundly grateful that you don’t still do it. We’ve got enough problems.
You have a truly bizarre view of what democracy means.
You think that a second referendum to clarify the wishes of the people given the vast amount of new information that is now available would be wrong.
But even if a majority now wish to remain, you think the correct course would be to leave and then rejoin - involving massive economic and social disruption - just in order to be able to say that we nominally fulfilled the “leave” step specified in the first referendum?
That’s so utterly stupid that I simply don’t believe that your motivations have anything to do with actual democracy. Why not just be honest about it - you want Brexit to happen, so you don’t want a second referendum. That’s fair enough, but don’t present such moronic disingenous suggestions to try to make out that your true motivation is to support democracy.
BTW folks, I asked the mods about creating a bet thread. Since you all seem to think that Brexit will be a disaster, I wondered how many of you would be willing to put your money where your mouths are. As I’ve said before, I don’t know whether it will be or not and I maintain that position. The request was denied.
Of course I do. And because I think that the majority of British people now agree with me, given all the information that has subsequently been revealed about the true consequences.
You don’t want a second referendum, because you know public opinion has shifted substantially, and it would almost certainly reverse the first one - and because you want Brexit to happen, regardless of what the majority of British people now want.
So let’s the cut the bullshit that your position is about abstract principles of democracy, shall we?
Every five years you get to have another vote on who should run the country. You’re more likely to show up and vote if you disagreed with who was voted in five years ago, or it turned out who you voted for was disagreeable.
There is nothing wrong with voting again for anything under the above conditions. Your reasons for finding a second refendum undemocratic are absolute nonsense.