question about women in clubs and bars

I knew a girl who being harassed by a guy at a bar who didn’t understand “no.” She finally snapped, grabbed her best friend (also a female) and with no warning gave her a full on lip-lock. Neither are lesbians, but the guy finally took the hint.

Maybe they’re actually attracted to the girls they’re dancing with? I know I would be…and sometimes dancing with a girl is much more fun than dancing with a guy.

Um, cuz it’s fun. I’d rather dance like mad fuck fuck (thanks Demo!) with a girl I know than I guy I don’t know. Come to think of it, I’d rather dance like mad fuck fuck with a girl I don’t know than a guy I don’t know either. I’m not doing it for anyone’s benefit but my own. I’ll try to take others feelings into account next time I go dancing. Heh, not.

[li]When I go out, I very rarely ever try to hit on anyone, and I certainly don’t go near the dance floor. Therefore, I sincerely doubt that what you imply, is actually occurring, even if you were just being a smartass. :wally[/li]

[li]Sometimes, it can be fun to observe that. FWIW I enjoy watching female-female porn. However, the reason that I find it off-putting, in a bar/club setting, is the fact that these women seem to be deliberately sending a signal out to all of the men in the bar, “stay away, I’m not interested, it’s girl’s night out, girls just wanna have fun, get lost” regardless of their sexual preference. It’s tough enough for me to even consider busting a move, but when something like that is going on, I figure I shouldn’t waste my time trying, even if I had the nerve to try.[/li]

[li]Definitely not a gay/lesbian bar or gay/lesbian night… I have been going to this bar for a long long time. It’s definitely a straight bar. The only thing I really see the women do there that is “lez-like” is the extreme dirty dancing with other women thing. They aren’t making out or anything like that, though. The women there are always going after guys, and they often even raid the mens room for peeks, and probably a lot more.[/li]
I have seen women kissing one another (I believe, for show) in the larger straight nightclubs, just to get raises out of the guys. Oh, those crazy college kids!

FYI…There is an infamous special nightclub elsewhere in town for all the gays and lesbos to go. I’ve never been there.

Would you please define what makes a “creepy guy” creepy?

Yeah, if all the women are doing is dirty dancing it’s probably a very straight bar. There are only two clubs/bars I regularly get dragged to, a goth nightclub and one with a lot of swingers, and I can’t remember the last time I went to either without seeing women making out with each other.

Hit reply too early.

My guess is that the women are doing it mostly because they enjoy dancing and don’t have any hangups about dancing with people of the same sex. If they dance with their friends they can choose who they dance with without having to be rude - they aren’t likely to get approached by guys while dancing with their female friends, and if they see a guy they would like to dance with they can approach him.

new question:

Ladies, how important is it to you, for a guy you’re interested in, to dance with you when you’re at a club/bar?

A creepy guy would be the guy who stands near the dance floor watching the girls dance but not making an effort to join in, instead of standing or sitting with his mates having a laugh and a pint.

I’ve danced with chicks at clubs – my two best friends, with whom I usually go to that club. They’re both straight, but it’s a running joke to do that kind of dance-flirting every once in a while. When I went to that club with a guy I was dating, I danced with him.

I’ve also done the “I’ve got a partner, bugger off” thing. Last time I went clubbing I had to assault a guy to get him to keep his mitts off me and leave me the hell alone.

Plus, I prefer to dance with people I know, and most of the guys I know don’t like to dance. Especially not the straight ones.

Wasn’t quite sure. I figured it was a pretty gender-neutral comment, tho. And it is still a Very Happy Image. :wink:

[li]mistake number one? I always go to the bar alone. I have no choice. I have absolutely no one to go with. I don’t know anyone there, either.[/li]
[li]mistake number two? I am terribly shy, so I don’t really make much of an effort to talk to anyone when I am at the bar. All I do is hang around and watch everyone.[/li]
[li]mistake number three? I rarely drink alcoholic beverages. It’s usually pop, water, or coffee if I have anything.[/li]
Does that make me a “creepy” bar guy?

Y’know, there’s something very vaguely amusing about this statement… :slight_smile:

MSK, first off I don’t know where you get with this “Act as if they were lesbians” idea. What exactly do you mean?

They hold hands when you come near? They kiss each other and have goo-goo eyes and whisper sweet nothings into their friend’s ear? If they do that, chances they are either bi’s or lesbians or just very close chums.

Now if they simply go out and dance with each other then they are just out to have a good time, some might even be lesbians, who cares. Women dancing with women is not that big a deal. So assuming, given your observation, that these women are lesbians, I would gather about 90% of women that frequent any club are therefore lesbian.

Rethink it dude…sheesh, not all women are out to go to bar and find the first guy she sees dance with him and take him home and screw his brains out. Most women I know have absolutely no qualms about getting on the dance floor with their friends and dance, even provactively. Women tend to be more open with expressions than men. It doesn’t mean each women is a lesbian, a few might be, a few might be bi’s the rest are women just wanting to let loose.

Honestly? Yes. Most people go to bars for two reasons - to socialize and to drink. If you do neither, and just go to watch people, that’s strange.

I’m guilty of this.

Just recently, in fact, in a club in Las Vegas. Was dancing in a loose group with another gal and a married couple, when another guy came up and started dancing with me. Not a big deal… that’s the purpose of going to a club! Then his hands started wandering, and when they got a little out of control I turned to the other gal, caught her eye, and started the full-on dirty dancing thing with her. Apparently the guy watched for a bit, hoping this was indeed going to wind up being a threesome thing, til he finally got the hint and wandered off.

The funny part about all this is I didn’t have to say a word to my friend. Just a look, and she knew exactly what to do. So Think is right in at least some cases… we do it to ward off creepy guys, and it’s a universally understood thing women can employ.

On the other hand, I have to also agree that if a group of gals go out, they’re gonna be dancing with one another in the manner to which they are accustomed… what appears to you to be ‘acting like lesbians’ is probably the same way they’d be dancing with you if you went up and asked them. I have enough trouble dancing as it is… I don’t change my dancing style based on gender. I’m an equal-opportunity frotteur. :wink:

Looks like just one more confirmation of Jomo’s General Theory of Gender Relations™ which I wrote in a poem several years ago:

P.S. I am not complaining. I like women, so can’t blame others for what I also do.

That it is; that it is. Especially if you scroll up a couple posts from here and imagine bobkitty doing it…:wink:

That’s right LindyHopper, snicker all you want to, but there is/was lesbian night every wednesday there at Doc Ricketts bar on Cannery Row in Monterey, California. I think they have closed though, otherwise I would invite you. No, I never went to that bar I can’t hear the music, so rather pointless.

My thoughts exactly. If you have no-one to go with, your shy, and you don’t drink, why on earth do you go to clubs? If I saw someone who was doing nothing but watching girls dance, that would make me very uneasy, and I would immediately think “creepy guy” ::shudder:: Oh and if I thought it would make the “creepy guy” go away, I would defenitly dance closer to my girlfriend.

[li]I refuse to sit at home all weekend feeling bored.[/li][li]Despite how horribly shy I am, I hope to meet people, and work on my social skills, even it’s simply through observation.[/li]I don’t have anything else to do, or anywhere else to go, especially on a weekend.