Question for Democrats - Restaurant exclusion sign

Would I be ticked off if I saw a sign like that in a place that I frequent? Sure. But I’d also appreciate the sign because it would let me know that I should stop spending my money there. I’d also feel empowered to let others know about the sign so that they can stop shopping there as well.

As long as the business doesn’t interrogate its patrons to find out what their politics are, yes, I am “cool” with this practice. Whether I think it makes good business-sense is a different question.

There is something qualitatively different in choosing where you spend your consumer dollars vs. being told ‘your kind is not wanted here’.

Deplorables aren’t welcome in decent society, and they need to understand that.

you people need to get a grip! its just for fun. a bar i frequent has had a “no packers fans” sign up for as long as i can remember. and on chi/gb game day the place is packed with half green and gold.

not every sign is a sign of the apocalypse. . . sheesh!

mc

We’re talking about a restaurant, not a slaughterhouse. :smiley:

Now some are saying it’s just a joke from an owner known to be free with his comments and they never really meant it.
If that’s the case at least it caused the potential for drama. I mean who doesn’t want to witness useless drama that pro wrestling fans would be envious of when going out to eat? Otherwise you’d cook or get your food delivered.

If I were on vacation in Hawaii and saw the sign, I’d go right in. Make a connection right away. It looks like they’d be fun folks to talk to.

Crane

Being told my kind is not wanted here is a factor in choosing where to spend my consumer dollars. That’s not a hypothetical, I was hoping to get down to the US in the fall to hike the Grand Canyon. So much for that.

It is possible to focus on more than two things at once. That’s like saying ‘these bathrooms are spotless, the food must be crap’. I’m sure someone that’s been running a business can manage to divert 30 seconds to write up a sign and hang it in the window.
I see that logic all the time and I’ve never understood it.

As for if I’d eat there, probably not, I was always taught not to discuss money, religion or politics and it seems like that would be a place where I’d end up in a political conversation because of the conversation piece on the door.

Stop what shit?

I’m not going to stop being angry and pissed off at people who are being ignorant and hateful. I live and work alongside people who are willing to protest in the street to deny women the agency of their own bodies, but who agree with the president that maternity care should be an out-of-pocket expense. That kind of cognitive dissonance is the real shit. People being so fed up that they don’t want to deal with the folks who think such shitty things is not “shit”. Barring the door is the reaction to shit. It’s a coping mechanism to shit. Everyone putting on fake happy faces isn’t going to change anything. It’s just makes it easier to pretend that shit ain’t actually shit.

I personally would never ban a Trump supporter from my hypothetical business. But that’s because I’m a greedy-ass bitch, not because I’m full of lovingkindness towards the despicables who want us to go back to the “good ole days” of polluted air and water and working 30 years in the coal mines just so they don’t have to catch up to the 21 century and compete against the rest of the planet on equal footing.

I am invoking Gaudere’s Law on you. :smiley:

Look, I’m just as pissed as you at what’s going on with this cluster fuck of an administration. I’m not suggesting anyone put on a fake fuck happy grin and pretend it’s business as usual. It isn’t.

But this kind of shit leads to a very local and personal social polarization between neighbours and co-workers and PTA members and amateur sport leagues and coffee & cars clubs; People you once liked and shared something in common with, but now are compelled to hate because of how they voted. And it’s a two way street. One side does it, the other side reciprocates, and it all escalates.

I believe liberals have the moral high ground here. I believe we’re mentally tougher and we have the arc of history and justice on our side. We ought not give in to this kind of vindictive pettiness.

By all means, call out Trumpery for what it is. It deserves to be criticized and people who support it should be engaged and challenged. But segregation and ostracization is not the way to go about it. It just isn’t.

What if a business were to put up a sign not specifically rejecting torture-supporting bigots but just read “A portion of the proceeds from each sale will be donated to the ACLU”? That wouldn’t be discriminatory but would probably keep the Republicans away anyway.

Oh, and just a thought…

When did liberals become such pussies?

Liberals lead human rights marches, gay rights marches, anti-war marches…

And now what? Suddenly we can’t bear to sit next to a Trump supporter at the next table in a restaurant? We have to shout down every conservative speaker on a University campus?

What The Fucking Fuck, guys?

Yeah, it causes polarization. I’m polarized against anybody stupid and evil enough to vote for Donald Fucking Trump. Because you’ve got to be evil to want the snake oil Trump is selling, and you’ve got to be stupid to believe that the snake oil will work.

You can’t vote for Donald Trump and expect to be treated as if you were a normal decent human being.

He took the sign down at the end of December, btw:

OK, and? Deplorables aren’t, and shouldn’t be, welcome in decent society.

How else are deplorables going to learn that their behavior is not acceptable? They’re immune to reason.

Every conservative speaker or are you just talking about Milo? I didn’t follow the Milo stuff very closely, but what I did catch was really, really nasty. The thing about him was that he wasn’t (always) attacking groups of people, he was picking out individuals. He’d go on stage with pictures of minority students and make fun of them. Then fall back to his "I date a black guy and got raped when I was little, so I’m totally allowed to do what ever I want and look at how super flamboyant I am, do I really look threatening in my feather boa?’ shtick.

Sure, I’ll give you that freedom of speech allows for a certain level of ‘hate speech’ as long as it stays within the confines of the law, but with that, that same amendment also allows people to go and protest those speakers. It works both ways.

Well, if a bakery can basically put up a “no queers” sign, then I see this sign as a “see what it feels like” form of mockery. I’m okay with it.

People who took the sign seriously and got butt hurt over it evidently *did *see what if feels like, and didn’t like it one bit.

Not that those types of people are known for being particularly introspective.