Ridiculous hyperbole such as this accomplishes so much. Actuallly it’s counterproductive and cringe worthy.
No. Do not personalize arguments in this fashion.
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I thought that, when one side goes low, the other is supposed to go high?
This is my big concern. Yeah, I’m appalled by people who voted for Trump. It was a shitty, shitty thing to do.
But 2018 is on its way, and you know what? I need those people to act differently in 2018 than they did in 2016. So how I treat them doesn’t need to be based on seeing the good in them, or in respect for our political differences. How I treat them should be based on what’s gonna get them to cast fewer votes for Republicans in 2018.
This sort of thing? It’s counterproductive.
And when the people with hostile views are moral degenerates immune to reason?
You folks painting a large group of diverse people with such a broad and vitriolic brush need to reconsider your tactics. Which are in many ways hypocritical.
There are none so blind as those who will not see. Proof has been been presented aplenty. The fact that you don’t accept the proof does not invalidate it.
Oh, and “people like me”? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
And aren’t you doing EXACTLY the same thing?
Turn your back on them and focus on those who didn’t vote the last time around because they thought it didn’t matter.
I don’t think he took “a beating” in the press. In a local TV interview, he said it was all in fun even though like the vast majority of people in Hawaii, he hates Trump.
Other than that, Trump supporters ARE Nazis, and I couldn’t care less how they are treated.
No. I’m sure there is some difference between a set of two and a set of millions. I can’t quite put my finger on what it is but I’m sure it exists. Wait! I got it! One is very specific and accurate. The other is very broad and inaccurate. One is specific. One is general. So perhaps they aren’t EXACTLY the same thing.
Another poster who isn’t aware that words have actual meanings. No, Siam Sam, not every person who supports Trump is a Nazi. :smack::smack::smack:
Bullshit.
In case you missed it. :smack:
And here is your word for the day.
Please educate yourself on what a word means before using it. Unless you are employing the Humpty Dumpty method of debate where words only have the meaning you wish they had instead of what they do have.
Are you seriously equating Trump supporters to Nazis, Klansmen and terrorists?
Real Nazis dressed better and believed in science.
Reactions to a sign that refused service to Obama supporters?
And we’ve also been over the fact numerous times that if you voted for Trump, based on whatever rationalizations, you are responsible for putting him in office. Funny how they never seem to even acknowledge that let alone argue against it. They are just as responsible for Trump as the German people were for Hitler. You do agree that they put Hitler into power, right? And that they were responsible for it?
That’s bullshit. There isn’t a single voter who was on the fence who was pushed over to voting for Trump because someone called them evil, deplorable, whatever. Nor were there any who were going to be convinced to vote for Hillary by not saying it.
I would invite you to read this article by a respected journalist and long-time staff writer at the New Yorker. The subhead is “To call Donald Trump a fascist of some variety is simply to use a historical label that fits”, and that’s no logical fallacy. The writer goes on to say:
The arguments about whether[Trump] meets every point in some static fascism matrix show a misunderstanding of what that ideology involves. It is the essence of fascism to have no single fixed form—an attenuated form of nationalism in its basic nature, it naturally takes on the colors and practices of each nation it infects … It is no surprise that the American face of fascism would take on the forms of celebrity television and the casino greeter’s come-on, since that is as much our symbolic scene as nostalgic re-creations of Roman splendors once were Italy’s.
What all forms of fascism have in common is the glorification of the nation, and the exaggeration of its humiliations, with violence promised to its enemies, at home and abroad; the worship of power wherever it appears and whoever holds it; contempt for the rule of law and for reason; unashamed employment of repeated lies as a rhetorical strategy; and a promise of vengeance for those who feel themselves disempowered by history. It promises to turn back time and take no prisoners.