Questions about The Ring (CHOCK FULL OF SPOILERS)

Okay, I know there are other threads dealing with The Ring, but my questions are very specific.

Okay, during the “cursed video” part, we see a variety of disturbing, disjointed images and scenes that are later explained in the film. HOWEVER, a few of these images seem to just dangle in midair with no explanation or mention later on.
i.e.
The nail going through the finger. I know they go back to that a bit with the fingernail, but not in a way that makes me feel like it was explained.

ALSO

The centipede.

AND

The box full of twitching fingers.

I think that’s it for the things I didn’t get. Can someone offer an opinion of what they think those things mean? Or were they covered in the film, and I just missed them?

Box full of twitching fingers? Don’t remember that. Maybe you’re thinking of the maggots.

There was a centipede in the farmhouse, remember? There were probably centipedes like that in the barn, too, so Samara remembered them, like the picture of the tree, and the ladder.

(Just a side note: that centipede was tropical, right? They don’t get that big in…wherever it was the movie took place, do they? If you tell me it’s a North American species, I may never sleep again.)

The finger thing was a pun, I think. Finger/nail - geddit?

I was in New Mexico and one of the neighbor kids found a centipede that was about 6" long.

That thing gave me the creeps for weeks.

I think it was one of these, but I didn’t look at it too long:
http://www.uark.edu/depts/entomolo/museum/sheros.html

However, it’s supposedly a desert species and limited to more southern climates. I don’t know if there are ones that big that far north. And I’m not sure if the one in the movie was the same kind.

As for the box of fingers, I don’t know what it was supposed to mean, but it was in there.

Oh dear god.

Centipedes have to be the scariest bug in the whole, wide world. Millipedes don’t bother me in the slightest, but the agile centipede is just terrifying. God, and house centipedes? I turn on the light and they freeze. I see them and I freeze. gasp

I’ll probably have nightmares tonight from looking at those pictures.

Good explanation of the finger on the nail. I was wondering about that one, too.

The box o’ twitching fingers, from what I heard, had to do with a subplot that ended up on the cutting room floor. Something about the mom, instead of offing her daughter herself, hired a hitman to do it, and the guy delighted in cutting off peoples’ fingers and collecting them.

Gosh, I hope not. I’m not afraid of spiders, and I’m often called on by those who are (including men :slight_smile: ) to remove them. But while I was cleaning the basement this fall I learned something: centipedes freak me out. It wasn’t big, maybe 1.5" but it took all my willpower not to run away from it screaming. I know that the odds of one ever doing anything to me are tiny, compared to a spider(our area is home to a healthy wolf-spider population and they bite), are very small, since they probably don’t even bite, but they’re much worse to find because of all those legs. <shudder>

As for the imagery…if they explained the fly (beyond a potential foreshadowing that things from the movie can come though the screen) I missed it.

I just took the box of fingers to be an extension of the finger/nail image. She didn’t just lose one fingernail, she lost them all, so the box of fingers just seemed to symbolise all of them to me.

Personally, I found the video to be a bit lame. Sure, some of the images were creepy, but I didn’t like the way EVERYTHING seemed to get explained. The chair = the chair in her room and the chair in the ward; the images of the horses = the horses dying; the ladder = the ladder up to the barn; scenes of the mother/father; etc…the only images I haven’t been able to figure out were the man having his intestines pulled out of his mouth (someone linked that to Rachel caughing up the sensor, but it still doesn’t seem right), and then the shot of the maggots turning into people. I took the latter to be an image of trapped/tortured souls…but if everything else in the fucking video was explained so point blank, why have these two/three unexplained images?

Yeah, that bothered me too. It was as if the original, ‘full’ video was just to creep everyone out, but later they just cropped it to the relevant parts.

Personally, I thought it was a pretty cruddy movie either way.

IIRC, the original Japanese version didn’t have the pat explanations for everything. The video was very different, too, although it still ended with the well. The American Ring tended to lace things with “you’re living under the curse, so weird stuff will happen now,” whereas I don’t remember that from the original. (I thought it was an effective way to give the feeling that she was cursed, but they were really playing dirty pool with the audience, since she wasn’t actually cursed most of the time.)

I thought the American version was really entertaining, but I highly recommend the Japanese version. (And yes, I know I do so at the risk of sounding like Comic Book Guy! My wife and I were in the theater planning to see The Ring, and some random guy walking past said, “Ugh- don’t even bother. See the Japanese version.” I’m glad I didn’t listen.) The American version was cool, but they left out a few things that made the original really, really cool, IMO. Once you see it, you’ll understand what I mean. For one thing, the backstory is a lot more complicated than just having Samarra be evil.

There was also a scene in the video in the American version with a lot of people writhing around in water. The sequel, Ring 2, picks up where the first movie leaves off, with the police investigation into Samarra’s death (she’s named Sadako in the Japanese version, and is a teenager at the time she is dumped in the well.) At one point a gateway is opened to the netherworld, and you see that the souls of all of Sadako’s victims are writhing around in water.

I won’t say too much more so as not to spoil the Japanese versions, since it looks like the Japanese ones will be released on DVD soon. Be warned that the backstory of the Japanese version is pretty cryptic, and only slowly unfolds over about three movies (Specifically, I’m thinking of Ring, Ring 2 (the one with the police investigation,) and Ring 0: Birthday.) Samarra/Sadako’s backstory is also very different from the American version.

The production history of the Ring movies is pretty weird, too. IIRC they are based on a series of novels, and the movies were a real phenomenon in Japan, like the X-files here. When they decided to make a movie, they unaccountably decided to make the first movie and the sequel simultaneously, and release them simultaneously.(!) This was weird enough, but apparently the two units didn’t communicate well, so the first “Ring 2” was sort of like a remake of the first one, but with a very different backstory and different take on the basic premise. (I haven’t seen it, so I can’t say for sure.) So far as I know, the Ring 2 with the police investigation is the canonical second movie, which was made later.

There’s also a Korean remake called “Ring Virus,” which was pretty bad. And I’ve heard that the very first version of Ring was actually a softporn movie in which Sadako would always crawl out of the TV set buck naked. I must say I find that very, very odd.

AAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHH!!!

The centipedes and jerusalem crickets are all out to get me!

I think the intestines were actually the sensor. It seemed to be the sensor in EXTREME CLOSEUP. As for the maggots turning into people, I thought that was more of a companion piece to the cut line of Samara’s that

“Everyone will suffer.”

Even without her saying that line, the implication is still there that Samara’s anger is so great that she wants to destroy as many people as she can. Remember when she said, “I’m sorry. I can’t help it.”