Questions about traveling to Spain

Including Monserrat along with a tour of Barcelona is going to be a long day. We spent most of a day out there by itself.

I was about to tell you to go to the Magic Fountain for an amazing sunset display but it’s shut off right now due to drought.

We found a flamenco show to be well worth the hour or so. Ours was just off Plaça Reial but I’m sure there are others that are just as good.

Don’t try to eat along La Ramblas, go at least 2 blocks away and you’ll find better food and cheaper prices.

Eat tapas, ask the wait staff to make recommendations. We took a tapas tour which was well worth the time.

We really enjoyed a lot of wandering around at dusk and after dark, visiting neighborhoods and stopping in for a drink and a bite at a couple of places each night. Parc de la Ciutadella was also quite lovely, and seemed like a lot of locals were there.

Just got back from Barcelona. Here are a few thoughts, based on a 3 day stay.

I’d been before (on business) but I never realized just how Catalan Barcelona is. In the touristy parts you’ll often get signs in 3 languages – Catalan first and largest, then Spanish, then English. In the regular parts of the city, usually just Catalan. (In between it’s Catalan then Spanish). If you speak a little Spanish, then for the most part you’ll be OK reading Catalan.

There are small Supermercats everywhere. Nothing has a price on it – I’m sure we were ripped off handsomely. In pretty short order we (reluctantly) stopped using them and stuck to the larger chains. There’s a good Carrefour on La Rambla, for example.

There aren’t many public toilets. Use the facilities in the attractions you visit, of course. Cafes have toilets - I wouldn’t normally recommend chains but “365” was very useful – they’re really good cafes for office workers and the like and they’re everywhere. Good snacks and coffee – try a croissant de cereals – and you’re in the proper city; tourists don’t really go there, signage is Catalan only. Stick 365 into google maps and you’ll probably find one within a couple of blocks. On a sample of one I would say Vivari is similar but better, but there don’t seem to be as many of them. BTW, in a 365 near tourist attractions, you’ll have to ask for the key code to get into the toilet (or jump in as someone comes out.).

I don’t know if your preference is for seeing just the tourist areas or taking a deeper dive (or both). My interest in travel is mostly to experience a place, rather than to see the sights, and my choice of eateries reflects this. I’m usually looking for a small family-run place frequented by the locals. Upthread someone mentioned getting away from La Rambla to eat. Good advice, but it doesn’t have to be far – a block or two suffices. Our favourite bar/restaurant (those definitions blur into one other) was La Masia (Carrer d’Elisabets, 16) which is about 200m off La Rambla. Small, friendly, lively, inexpensive, full of locals – but they do have the menu in English. Two of us ate very well for about €45. And if you’re feeling brave…try the Bar de Tapas Atlanta (Rambla del Raval, 13) which is about 400m off La Rambla. It was our first dinner, before the rust got knocked off our Spanish. We arrived on Sunday, which was also Fathers’ Day, and I think they had sold out of quite a few things. As a result the menu didn’t mean much, and the woman running the place just said (we eventually realized) I’ll tell you what we’ve got, you tell me what you want. I mean, we managed, and the food was good, but it was a bit of a baptism of fire. It feels like being in the area social club - €30 for two people (!). BTW – don’t know what days you are in Barca, but a lot of eateries are closed on Sunday, and quite a few on Monday.

Don’t feel you have to eat just Tapas. Places also do Platos - they’re like a mini main course. You might have one of those that you like the idea of, plus a tapa or two to make a full meal.

I see you have skip the line tickets for La Sagrada Familia - they may be helpful; we had regular tickets booked online in advance, and it was still a ruck trying to get in. Security is as bad as an airport. They say that Gaudi buildings look better from the outside than the inside, and (based on the SF) I would agree with that – except that, as others have noted, the light inside La Sagrada is amazing. What’s even more amazing is that I managed to capture it (more or less) in a photo. It’s google photos, so click on the photo for the full image

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That was about 10.30AM. While we were there, green also washed into the air – it’s quite a show.

Parc Guell is good. Think: over-flamboyant cake decorator’s fever dream made real in rock and ceramics. Actually, that’s only a small part of what is a large public park. Every palm tree comes with its own parrot’s nest.

Mercado de La Boqueria is great fun to look around. Montjuic has great views. Up there you can stick your head inside the Olympic stadium for free (and there are public toilets in there). You can walk down through an area constructed for the 1929 Barcelona International Exposition, culminating with the Font Màgica de Montjuïc. From there you’re looking at Las Arenas de Barcelona, a commercial shopping complex in a repurposed bullring. I abhor bullfighting, but I’ve never seen a bullring that wasn’t beautiful, and this is no different; we only realized when we were on the bus out to the airport that you can go up on the roof.

The beaches are pleasant, the harbor area is bustling. The old city is good (not great); there are usually a couple of buskers outside the cathedral. You get a better class of busker in Barcelona.
I think those are the main things. If I think of more good stuff I’ll add it. If you have any questions I’ll try to answer them.

j

Great information! Thank you for sharing. Great picture!

My pleasure. I now need to write my reviews for google maps; I rely on them for guidance/research, and I’m very serious about contributing in return.

j

ETA - I forgot to say, if you are going to go to Mercado de La Boqueria, morning is more interesting, because the fish stalls are fully stocked - they sell out and close down later in the day.

Do they still have the areal cable car to the beach from there? I haven’t been since 2005, but all my best pictures are from that cable car ride.

On my next trip, I’m getting an Airbnb with a kitchen so I can shop for dinner at La Boqueria.

There are a couple of (contiguous?) cable cars, one from the harbor to the base of Montjuic; and then a second up to near the top of the hill. I assume there’s a ticket that covers both legs, but we didn’t research it because I’m not up for being dangled on a wire 50 meters above the city. I lack your courage.

God, I know what you mean. But if we’d had an Airbnb, I would have spent a fortune in that market. Sometimes hotels work out cheaper for reasons you don’t expect…

j

Thanks for the hint. My parents are hoping to go in November - I will tell them they have to do this.

Almost everywhere - even for airport buses - you are advised to buy your ticket online in advance. In most cases - Parc Guell, for example (or indeed an airport bus) - there’s no need in low season. But for La Sagrada Familia I think it’s pretty much essential.

j

Yup, this was from 2020.

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Absolutely. Las Ramblas may have been interesting once but is now a horrible tourist trap.
I made the mistake of trying to eat there a few years ago. Food was inedible and wine was vinegar.
Just don’t. There are good restaurants a few blocks away.

Yes, very good idea. We booked our Sagrada tickets from the hotel room the night before, in June 2016. The walk–up ticket line appeared to be an hour long. I’m sure if tourism is rebounding from COVID then lineups are probably worse today.

We had a private Gaudi tour with a guide, that allowed us to skip the lines at a few places. Well worth it.

Totally agree. Last time I was in Barcelona a few years ago the walk-up line was ridiculous. Book ahead.

Thought I would give an update. Today is the last day of our trip. We are in Barcelona. It has been fantastic. We did 3 days in Madrid, 1 day trip to Toledo, and this will be our third day in Barcelona. This was the first time my three boys (20, 16 and 14) have been to Europe. A few random thoughts/observations:

  • Our hotel location in Madrid couldn’t have been better. A few minutes from the Puerta del Sol, on a pedestrian street. Very easy to get everywhere.
  • Public transportation is so efficient and easy in Spain. We wound up taking high speed trains, the metro in both cities and even a bus once. Super impressed.
  • Our two hotels were much larger and nicer than my previous trips to Europe (20+ years), especially the bathrooms. So that was nice.
  • Our hotel in Madrid was a short walk from Mercado San Miguel and we loved it so much we made three trips there.
  • The food was fantastic, across the board. We mostly ate local food, but also had Indian in Madrid and Italian in Barcelona. Tried tripe for the first time.
  • My kids were astonished (in a good way) by Toledo. Definitely nothing they had seen before.
  • Our tour in Barcelona included Montserrat, which was much more impressive than I expected.

I could go on, but suffice to say the trip was a huge success. My kids have the travel bug and have had their eyes opened to different cultures and ways of life.

Thanks again for all the advice!