quothz, please cool your jets.

The BBQ Pit
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Regarding this thread, may I humbly suggest you step back for a moment, and take a deep breath? Then perhaps listen to me for a moment?

The OP asked for language that distinguish between two different kinds of “hot”. I suggested one, Spanish, and mentioned in passing that I disagreed with the OP’s premise that English didn’t distinguish between the two concepts. Then aaslatten posted, wondering why English speakers still said “spicy hot” and “temperature hot”, given the breadth of English vocabulary. I replied then replied to aaslatten’s post.

My reply was a bit flippant. But still, I feel it was relevant to the OP. It was a reply to aaslatten, and related to my contention that English does distinguish between the two types of “hot-ness”.

Then you came in, so to speak. You made a very informative post, but you started by suggesting that I didn’t know what the word “scalding” meant.

I quite frankly was rather puzzled by that. Just to be sure, I looked it up. I also mentioned the derivation of the word, not to “impress ancient Romans” but because it was related to what I had said earlier about Latin-derived languages having similar words.

Then, apparently, you blew a gasket. Quite frankly, this:

and this:

were both condescending and insulting. I don’t think your comments were warranted, and I don’t think I deserved that level of hostility. I have, in fact, been known to cook (although I freely admit I’m not that experienced at it) and I have even been known to bake bread, and I did answer the OP thank you very bloody much.

If you thought I was being too flippant or not on-topic enough, you might have considered just saying so. Instead, you decided to fire with both barrels. Next time, try cooling your jets and using some civility.

(I’ve made nearly 20 posts in threads related to the election this week, and this is what prompts me to pit a Doper for the first time. Weird week, I guess.)

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This kinda calls for a Schwarzenegger one-liner after messily dispatching an opponent by throwing him into a furnace: “Too bad he vas such a hot-head.” I love eytomology, BTW, though my Latin is pretty rusty, so keep 'em coming.

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Calidus. From what I’ve just remembered {there must be a posting term for esprit d’ escalier}, Arnie played a character named Calidor in Red Sonja. Perhaps that’s the connection.

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I would just like to PIT quotzh for these two sentences:
“As others have noted a bit vaguely, the Spanish picante refers to the hotness caused by peppers or whatnot.”

I cannot stand that fucking phrase. “Whatnot”?. I’ll tell you what the fuck not! It sounds ridiculous! How in the hell is it catching on?

“Neither would anyone else who, like, cooks things that don’t have instructions printed on the back of the box.”

Like… whatever, and whatnot. Like totally…

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Yeah, I was totally out of line with that post, and I apologize. There was no reason or need for my manner. I usually reserve my ire for those who need a good keyboard-lashing, but in this case it was totally uncalled-for.

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“Whatnot” caught on in the 16th century, and has been in usage ever since. It’s colloquial usage and all like that, but popular for something on the close order of five hundred years.

I insert “like” as a standalone phrase to indicate approximation or broad generalities, but I wouldn’t use it -formally-. It’s just a stylistic thing, like using “the fuck” as a general emphatic term. I can only assume that your formal writing doesn’t include this. (“I recommend the U.H. 332 Modulator for our Gyroscopic Epiphanizer. Not only is the price lower than the model presented by the General Products representative, but it outperforms the fuck out of the GP model.”) We all have our stylistic foibles, which we occasionally indulge in when writing informally.

And with that said, I bow out of an otherwise well-deserved pitting. Flame on!

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Well dang qouthz. That ruins a pit. Hmmph. No fireworks. It is Guy Forkes Night over here in the UK and you throw that on the bonfire! Shame on you. :smiley:

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Holy Crap, or something.

Go ahead… cloud the issue with hard facts and agreeable explanations! Bastard.

“like” I can actually handle. “And Whatnot” will forever sound ridiculous to me. It may have been around many centuries ago, but I bet it’s like bellbottoms. It comes and goes. Only recently have I heard people using it all the time like madmen. Or maybe it’s regional, and you losers just keep moving down here. :smiley:

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Guy fork()s night here is celebrated by making sparks come out of a process table with the following little ditty:



#!/bin/sh
$0 & $0 &

I didn’t know it had spread to anyplace they celebrate Guy Fawkes night. :wink:

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My ears are burning.

:cool:

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Apology completely accepted. (I would have said so sooner, but I’ve been away from the keyboard for a while. Silly real life…)

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BTW, quothz, you really talk good.

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Since Orbifold’s original reply was to me, I’ll chime in that I was merely saying that even if these words (like spicy and scalding) do exist, they appear to be inadequate to the extent that people often don’t use them, preferring to fall back on “temperature hot” and “spicy hot.”