Alright, The Ryan; we could go on like this for pages. Neither of us seems to be tired, and we both remain unconvinced by each other’s arguments. Now you could continue to impugn my perspicacity, and I could continue to question your intellectual honesty, but I fear we’re not holding the interests of others, and we would have to lobby for a new forum in which to place the thread (Mundane Pointless Debates Which Bore Others?)
I’m enough of a realist to conclude that I’m only amusing myself (we don’t seem to be inundated with comments from the other “villagers”) (btw, thank you jb), and if we’ve learned nothing else in this thread, I suppose we’ve learned when to abandon a bad analogy (eh, 'Ryan? wink, wink).
So here’s my proposal. Let’s refocus the discussion on any aspect of the OP, or of Affirmative Action, or let’s return to the Prop 209 thread. One of the issues I think that’s ripe for exploration is the distinction you so very much want to make between the terms “class” and “group.” Now, I’d like to hash that out with you, if you don’t mind. I could go and get your exact phrasing from the other thread, or you could restate that distinction right here; either one is fine with me. I would ask that you provide citations of the relevant legislation or case law which establishes the legal distinction between class and group, since that seems to be the only falsifiable assertion you’ve made in either thread.
I am prepared to have my ignorance assuaged by you, The Ryan. Simply present the relevant cites and I will admit that I was ill informed on those terms and thank you for the information.