Rank the Firefly episodes from best to worst [spoilers]

I know, just what we need around here, another Firefly thread, right?

I just watched the series again and I have to say - it gets better with every viewing. I’m now willing to declare it is simply the best show that has ever been put on TV, despite on lasting 14 episodes. And that’s the amazing thing - shows rarely hit the ground running, they have an awkward growing phase before they get good - which makes me wonder how great Firefly could’ve become.

But even so, it’s just so expertly crafted. The episodes clearly and logically established the characters and the relationships between the characters fluidly as an integral element of the plots. War Stories establishes the Mal/Zoe/Wash relationship, Ariel gives Jayne a way to develop some loyalty, Safe has a moment where Simon hops on the pyre and says “light it” where I just completely bought his all-consuming love for his sister.

You can also tell it’s a work of love. Everyone loved their characters and loved being part of the show. You get a real sense of family. The trivia section on IMDB says that instead of waiting between shots in the green room, they’d sit around on the ship set.

The universe and setting is simply brilliant. The single giant star system, lack of aliens, continuum of degrees of civilization/wealth/technology, the dialects - it is the most interesting fictional universe ever created on TV. The series is as hard sci fi as TV has ever gotten.

Which actually brings me to a complaint - the whole point of having the outer worlds use horses, basic tools, and basic, proven firearm designs is that they’re low maintenance and rugged. It makes sense that people would ride to a fight on horseback with an AK-47 on their back. There are energy weapons available to the rich worlds and the military, but they’re shown to be expensive and sometimes impractical. Perfect. So why in the hell did they sound department add sci-fi energy noises to the operation of mechanical firearms? It’s both totally illogical, and ruins the great high tech to low tech continuum they had going. It’s the only thing I hated about the series and it drives me nuts.

Anyway, I’m curious as to how everyone rates all of the episodes. There are few enough of them that it isn’t much work to rank all of them in order. I think Out of Gas and Objects in Space will be the only contenders for #1, but I’m curious where people rank some of the lesser episodes. I also made this a poll to see what people’s top three turn out to be, so only select 3. Poll is public.

If you don’t know the episode names, here’s a list.

My ranking:

  1. Objects in Space. This episode is simply art the whole way through. The aesthetic, camera work, dialogue, just amazing. I think this very well could be the best hour of television ever created. Jubal Early is awesome, River gets a chance to prove she has some usefulness (even if it was her presence that created the problem), and her little speech when she volunteers to go back with Early still moves me, since there was some truth in it.

Zoe: “I know she’s unpredictable, but I don’t think she’d harm anyone”
Jayne: “Butcher’s knife!?”
Zoe: “…anyone we can’t spare”

Early: “I don’t think of myself as a lion. You might as well, though: I have a mighty roar.”

  1. Out of Gas

I suspect this will top most people’s list. It’s certainly a great episode. The backstory interspersed with the story is done in an excellent way. The story of how they recruited Jayne is perfect and really fits the character. And the way you hear the ship salesman throughout the episode, selling you on what you assume will be Serenity - only at the end to see that he was talking about another ship, but with Mal and Serenity it was love at first sight anyway, was touching. The show does an amazing job of making the ship into its tenth character.
Mal: “Ship like this, be with you till the day you die.”
Zoe: “Because it’s a death trap.”

  1. Our Mrs. Reynolds

The first two rankings are pretty clear, but I have a hard time sorting my next few favorites. Our Mrs. Reynolds was probably the funniest episode. Christina Hendricks was amazing. Too many quotes on this one - there are at least a dozen great ones.

Mal: “My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle”

Mal: “But she was naked! And all… articulate!”

Mal: “If someone is trying to kill you, you try to kill them right back!”

Jayne: “That’s why I never kiss 'em on the mouth”

  1. Ariel

Jayne’s “don’t tell 'em what I did, make something up” realization is one of the most amazing character development moments ever. Mal’s loyalty to his crew finally hits Jayne, and makes the ultimate mercenary come to realize that he has some loyalty too. It was the perfect - probably only - to redeem Jayne’s sudden but inevitable betrayal. The caper aspect of the episode was really good too. And the way Jayne struggled to learn his line - and damn it, he was going to say it - is awesome. And I wish we’d have had more of a choice to learn about the hands of blue guys.

Jayne: “Hell, I don’t know. If I wanted schooling, I’d have gone to school”

Simon: “Could you not do that while we’re… ever?”

  1. Serenity

The original pilot. I thought it was a much better episode than the actual first one aired, The Train Job. It did a great job of setting up the universe and the characters while still being an interesting story in its own right. It features the first crowning moment of awesome (when Mal comes back to the ship, and the fed is holding the River hostage, and he just ends him without breaking stride). Actually, the first moment of awesome might’ve been when Mal told Simon that Kaylee was dead - he runs dramatically to the infimary, and then you see the rest of the crew laughing it up. Kaylee gets intimate with a strawberry. Wash’s dinosaurs.

Zoe: “If they take the ship, they’ll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing. And if we’re very, very lucky, they’ll do it in that order.”

Mal: “We are not gonna die. You know why? Because we are so… very… pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die”

Zoe: “I know something ain’t right.”
Wash: “Sweetie, we’re crooks. If everything were right, we’d be in jail.”

  1. Trash

Hard to put 6 through 8 in order, they could go any which way really. I like the caper episodes. Like the way the doctor decided to find a way to live at peace with Jayne. Beating YoSafBridge at her own game was satisfying.

Other captain: “I shaved off my beard for you, devil woman!”

Wash: “I’m confused.”
YoSafBridge: “You’re asking yourself if I’ve got the security codes, why don’t I go in, grab it for myself?”
Wash: “No. Actually, I was wondering… WHAT’S SHE DOING ON THIS SHIP?”

Jayne: “Okay. I got a question. If she’s got the security codes, why don’t she just walk in and grab it herself?”

Mal: “But you are a tweaked one, you are”
YoSafBridge: “But face it hubby, I’m really hot”

  1. War Stories

Does a great job of explaining the Mal/Zoe/Wash relationship, which would understandably cause some tension in a marriage. Shows that while our crew are bad guys, they’re certainly not the worst guys out there.

Jayne: “I’ll be in my bunk” (of course)

Nischka: “I think this is not enough… not enough for two. But sufficient perhaps for one. Ahhh, now have to…”
Zoe: “Him! … I’m sorry, you were going to ask me to choose, right?”

Zoe: “I understand, we have no choice. Take me sir, take me hard.”

  1. Jaynestown

Jayne as folk hero is good stuff. River deathly afraid of Book’s hair.

Jayne: “You guys had a riot… on account of me? My very own riot?”

Jayne: “The hero of Canton, the man they call… me”

Mal: “It’s my estimation that… every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind of son of a bitch or another”

  1. Shindig

This is about the point in the list where things go from great to pretty good. I find it somewhat implausible that Mal sticks around for a fight he’ll probably lose. I realize it’s a uniquely stubborn situation where he feels like he has to be able to operate in Inara’s world, and for her honor, but he’s a survivor and it was too risky.

Inara: “You have a strange sense of nobility, Captain. You’ll lay a man out for implying I’m a whore, but you keep calling me one to my face.”
Mal: “I might not show respect to your job, but he didn’t respect you. That’s the difference. Inara, he doesn’t even see you.”

Does a lot to establish the Mal/Inara relationship.

Mal: “Mercy is the mark of a great man. stab Guess I’m just a good man. stab Well, I’m all right.”

  1. Safe

Establishes the Book mystery, and really shows the degree to which Simon is dedicated to his sister. The rescue “big damn heros, sir!” is pretty awesome. Shows how backwards some of the outer planets can be.

Zoe: “Captain will come up with a plan.”
Kaylee: “Well, that’s good. Right?”
Zoe: “Possible you’re not recalling some of his previous plans.”

Simon: “I’m very sorry if she tipped off anyone about your cunningly concealed herd of cows.”

Mal: “Yeah, but she’s our witch”

  1. Heart of Gold

The plot in this one is pretty run of the mill, but it does make good use of the show’s aesthetic. Whorehouse covered in reflective solar panels, a machine gun mounted on a hovercraft charging amongst men on horses, the rich man with a badass but semi-impractical laser as a status symbol. The Nandi character was extremely hot - not only just physically but the whole package, suitable for someone as awesome as Mal I suppose. Jayne doing the whore’s hair was kind of adorable.

Nandi: “I’ve been waiting for you to kiss me ever since I showed you my guns”

Mal: “They’re whores”
Jayne: “I’m in”

Mal: “Well, lady, I must say—you’re my kinda stupid.”

  1. The Train Job

It’s unfortunate that this was the show’s premiere. It’s alright, but nowhere near as good an ep as the original pilot. It’s main redeeming quality is that the engine scene is one of the best moments in all of tv history.

Mal: “…darn”

Jayne: “You know what the chain of command is? It’s the chain I go get and beat you with ‘til you understand who’s in ruttin’ command here!”

  1. The Message

I just… don’t find too much to like about this episode. I didn’t find the war buddy too sympathetic. Jayne’s hat is the star of the episode. The lampoon on the “race through the canyons to escape another aircraft” trope is pretty good. I do really like the moment where the previously dead guy walks onto the bridge, and since Wash wasn’t privy to him coming back to life, loses his shit when he sees him. It seems like most TV shows have all characters know everything the audience knows, so I like little moments like this where something we know comes as a shock to a character. Is there a tv trope for this? The funeral scene at the end is touching since the cast knew at that point the show was dead.

River: “My food is problematic”

Jayne: “Spry for a dead fella!”

  1. Bushwacked

I don’t like the early characterization of Reavers - men who saw the edge of space and went crazy. I realize this was meant to be the popular thought on what reavers were, since at the time no one really knew, but it just never sat well with me. And I didn’t like the idea that reavers could essentially recruit because everyone who sees them brutalize becomes one of them. The interview scenes on the alliance ship are the highlight of this episode. And even at its worst, firefly is still better than 95% of everything else.

Wash: “The legs! Oh yeah, definitely have to say it was her legs. You can put that down. Her legs, and right where her legs… meet her back. Tha— actually, that whole area. That, and… and above it… Have you seen what she wears? Forget about it. Have you ever been with a warrior woman?”

Mal:“We’ll check it out, see if there are any survivors. And if not, well, then, no one’s gonna mind if we take a look around, see if there’s not something of value they might’ve left behind.”
Jayne:“Yeah, no, uh, someone could be hurt!”

So what’s your ranking?

Wow, I just picked the exact same three as you. I’ll rank them in a moment.

  1. Objects in Space - Best 42 minute episode of television of all time. Seriously.

  2. Out of Gas

  3. Our Mrs. Reynolds

  4. Ariel

  5. Jaynestown

  6. The Message - I tear up at the end of this episode.

  7. Shindig

  8. Trash

  9. War Stories

  10. Safe

  11. Serenity

  12. Bushwacked

  13. Train Job

  14. Heart of Gold - I still love this episode, though. :slight_smile:

  1. Objects in Space - Best 42 minute episode of television of all time. . (+1 FT)

  2. Out of Gas

  3. War Stories - this really does so much to show the dedication the crew has, that Mal has, and the great loyalty Zoe has (to say nothing of her skill), plus, it has the awesome lines: “This is something he has to do on his own.” “No! It isn’t” “Oh…<bangbangshootbangdeathfall>”

  4. Ariel

  5. Our Mrs. Reynolds

  6. Serenity

  7. Train Job

  8. Safe

  9. Jaynestown

  10. Trash

  11. The Message

  12. Bushwacked

  13. Shindig

  14. Heart of Gold

#4 is the hard one. OoG, OiS and WS take the top three spots, but OMR is so close.

I think I’d rate TM in last place, but that still makes it better than 99% of the TV ever produced.

Objects In Space and Out of Gas are definitely the top two. Ranking the rest is near-impossible.

  1. Objects in Space
  2. Out of Gas
  3. Jaynestown
  4. Our Mrs. Reynolds
  5. Ariel
  6. Train Job
  7. Serenity
  8. Trash
  9. War Stories
  10. Safe
  11. The Message
  12. Bushwacked
  13. Shindig
  14. Heart of Gold
  1. Objects in Space

  2. Out of Gas

  3. War Stories

  4. Serenity

  5. Our Mrs. Reynolds

  6. Jaynestown

  7. Ariel

  8. The Train Job

  9. Shindig

  10. Trash

  11. Bushwacked

  12. Safe

  13. The Message

  14. Heart of Gold

I could easily have switched positions #1 and #2 - I loved both episodes. Out of Gas had a very Heinlein feel to it - the scenes with Serenity in the space dealer’s lot could have been lifted from The Rolling Stones, with Mal and Zoe in the Castor and Pollux roles. The reverse timeline was extremely well done.

I had a few nitpicks with it that pushed it down into the #2 spot - the air running out wasn’t believable (there’s way too much space in the ship - the air would have lasted for a long, long time). The temperature decreasing wouldn’t happen nearly so fast and they could have warmed up a room on the ship to stay in, etc. But those are small nitpicks and I only included them to determine whether to make it #1 or #2 on the list.

I was tempted to rate the Serenity pilot higher - it didn’t have the impact of some of the shorter episodes, but when I want to re-watch Firefly I’m surprised by how often I gravitate to towards watching Serenity again. And of course, it had the Kaylee strawberry scene… That alone is worth pushing it up a notch or two.

Really, when it comes down to it, I’d rather group the episodes into tiers than rate them individually, with no particular ordering of episodes within each tier:

Top Tier

Out of Gas
Objects in Space
War Stories
Serenity

Very good or fun episodes

Jaynestown
Our Mrs. Reynolds
Ariel
Shindig
The Train Job
Trash
Weak for Firefly, but still better than most things on TV

Bushwacked
Safe
The Message
Heart of Gold

My listing:
1: “Shindig”. The duel itself was good, of course, but mostly for the sake of Kaylee. The dress, which admittedly was a bit gaudy, but it doesn’t matter because she loved it. The aristocrat guy dissing the bitch who was dissing her. The way she managed to fit perfectly into the niche of discussing engines with the guys, despite the way the rich girls were snubbing her. Interrogating the buffet table.

2: “Serenity”. Overall, a great way to introduce the characters and set up the series, while avoiding the trap of "this is the episode where we set up the series and introduce everyone. Plus, of course, the strawberry (can you tell I’m a big Kaylee fan?).

3: “Jaynestown”. “Let’s go to the crappy planet where I’m a folk hero.” “The hero of Canton don’t drink that swill! He gets the best booze in the house!” “Wait, you’re telling me you actually know Jayne?” I like the funny. Plus, of course, Jayne waxing philosophical with Mal at the end.

4: “Our Mrs. Reynolds”. Another funny one. Plus Saffron really was very… articulate. And I liked the scene between Saffron and Wash, where she’s trying to seduce him, and he’s steadfastly loyal to Zoe.

5: “War Stories”. It shouldn’t be possible to make a grim torture scene funny, but Joss pulled it off. And we see Zoe’s loyalty to Wash.

Those, I had a hard time choosing three from for the poll. The rest later, without commentary.

They do address the air issue - the fire burned most of it out. If you’re taking that into account and still just mentally figuring in the air available in the undamaged areas, you may be right - I really have no idea how long air remains usable for any given volume.

The temperature in space thing I don’t have a really good grasp on. The way it works is very counter-intuitive. But I guess the relationship between them (River saying they’d freeze to death first) may confirm your first point about there being enough air.

I was perusing the wikipedia page on firefly characters.

Son of a bitch!

We were going to get more Jubal Early. Maybe as an ongoing villain.

We were also going to get more of the Lawman from the pilot. In a followup Serenity comic, he returns with a bionic eye and a seriously pissed off attitude. Apparently that was the plan for the TV show as well.

Is this the place to mention that there is an on-going effort, spurred by an off-hand comment by Fillion, to purchase the rights to Firefly so that new webisodes can be produced? Staite has already shown an interest should such a thing come to pass.

  1. Out of Gas
  2. Objects in Space

As everybody else has said, it’s an awfully tough choice between “Out of Gas” and “Objects in Space” for the top spot. I ended up going with “Out of Gas,” as I’ve seen it probably twice as often as the rest of the series combined. It’s just a perfect combination of funny and dramatic such that I can always pop it in and enjoy it. “Objects in Space” is so, so brilliant, but the tone is so much darker that I’m not always in the right mood for it.

  1. Serenity, Parts 1 and 2

Simply put, the best pilot I’ve ever seen. Perfectly introduces the world, the characters, and the simmering series-long plot arc, and does so almost universally without relying on excessive exposition. The epitome of “showing, not telling.” Think of the opening battle, or Kaylee’s strawberry scene, or Book’s conversation with the other ship captain (“You on a trip, grandpa?”), or how Jayne freezes up the moment the word “Reaver” is uttered. Hell, everything related to Kaylee and Jayne - and especially that wordless shot of Jayne worriedly peaking in outside the medbay while Kaylee is undergoing surgery. Even Simon’s monologue about River’s past, which is the closest thing the episode has to straight-up “telling,” is almost more informative for how it depicts Simon’s love for his sister than for the info dump on River’s torture by the Alliance.

  1. Our Mrs. Reynolds

Hilarious, and the introduction of a GREAT villain in YoSaffBridge. One of the best comedy episodes of an hourlong drama, ever. Plus, it features my favorite one-liner of all time (OF ALL TIIIME!!):

“Well, I see my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.”

  1. Jaynestown

Equal parts uproarious Jayne comedy and complex meditation on how religion shapes the lives of its followers.

  1. Ariel

It’s a measure of how good Firefly was that this episode is only my sixth-favorite. Shows driven by continuity and season- or series-long plots have become de rigueur in recent years, what with your Losts and Battlestar Galacticas and Heroeses. Yet few shows have managed to ramp up their main plot while simultaneously providing believable and life-altering development for one of their lead characters as well as “Ariel” does for Jayne.

  1. War Stories

See what I wrote for “Ariel,” but without the bits about long-term continuity. A wonderful character episode for Wash, Mal, and Zoe. Also, ear-slashing! :eek:

  1. Trash

A silly one, but a fun one. I love how, on rewatching, you can totally totally tell when the Serenity crew “break” out of the roles they’re trying to play. The best bits happen during Saffron’s briefing for the crew in the dining room. There are several great side shots of Wash or Kaylee snickering or otherwise breaking character. Huge kudos to the cast here: it takes serious skill to convincingly play a character who is bad at acting!

  1. Shindig

As is a recurring theme for Firefly, this episode works equally well as a character show (for Mal, Inara, and Kaylee), as comedy, and as deadly-serious drama. Love the bits with Badger ("'Course, you couldn’t buy an invite with a diamond the size of a testicle, but I got my hands on a couple"). Love Mal’s “A swhat?” Love “Well, I’m just a good man. Eh, I’m all right.”

  1. Bushwhacked

Creepy as hell. Atmospheric as hell. Not one I rewatch often, though, because as I mentioned, it is creepy as hell.

That being said, this is Firefly, so the interrogation scene would be the comedic highlight of virtually any other show’s entire run.

  1. The Message

This one suffers for its use of the annoying “this situation could be easily resolved if we told you what we were up to, but we won’t” trope. But everything else about it is great. Tracy’s death scene is extremely affecting considering he’s a one-episode character who really isn’t very empathetic. And that last scene, when the crew brings Tracy’s body home, and the music swells, is a gorgeous tearjerker - even moreso when you learn that it was the last scene the cast shot together, and the music written with that in mind.

  1. Heart of Gold

This is the one episode of Firefly I don’t particularly care for. It’s not bad, it’s just not great. Or even good, really. Considering that I’d put even “The Message” among my top 50 episodes of TV of all time, the all-around mediocrity of “Heart of Gold” just doesn’t cut it.

As for the Big Damn Movie, it’s hard to say where I’d rank it, exactly. Probably somewhere between Ariel and Bushwhacked. As a series finale, I’m very happy with it - even the “leaf on the wind” parts. It’s a wonderful if bittersweet send-off to this amazing group of characters, brought to life by an extraordinary collective of writers and actors.

What happened to #8 & 9? :smiley:

IN “Serenity” Inara (an unbelievably beautiful woman) takes a sponge bath. Onscreen.

Kaylee (a good-looking but not gorgeous woman) … eats a strawberry. And it is easily twenty times sexier than the sponge bath.

Oops. Heh. Those would be “Train Job” and “Safe,” and their numbers should actually be #12 and #13, respectively (between “Bushwhacked” and “Safe”). And would’ve been if I could count.

So if I don’t especially like Out of Gas or Objects in Space, does that mean that I have poor taste?

I find OoG to not have the same amount of fun (for lack of a better word) as the other episodes. I guess I like Firefly as a light-hearted Sci-Fi comedy with some dramatic turns, but that ep is pretty ominous and depressing. It’s just not “fun”.

OiS is probably down my list because it brought almost no closure at all to the series. Not their fault, of course, but going into it I knew it was the last episode so I’ve probably carried that psychic baggage through every viewing.

I voted Ariel, Jaynestown and Our Mrs. Reynolds, FWIW.

My reply is almost redundant. OoG and OiS easily top the list. After a little hesitation I put the Serenity pilot third, at the last because it did hook me, whereas the the aired pilot, The Train Job, did not ( I dismissed the series when it was on TV, discovered it on DVD ).

I’ll differ in the worst category only because I’m not gonna hedge on it much. HoG was actually bad. As in not good. Not just not good for Firefly, but not really that good of TV in general. But that was the only turd in the punchbowl for me and 13 out of 14 is pretty damn fine batting average.

I generally agree with the listings here, with a tiny variation. Ariel is my number one pick… The story, the sets, the comedy, the betrayal, Mal’s response to the betrayal, are all uniformly amazing. The special effects of Simon examining River’s brain are still excellent, and the final scene (“You did it to me, Jayne, and that’s a fact”) can still give me goosebumps.

Out of Gas is my next pick, followed by Trash (I like Saffron, and I feel this is a better episode than OMR), then Objects in space. Heart of Gold is my least favorite, yet still better than almost anything else.

Man, what a great show.

I’m pretty much in agreement with everyone on the rankings (my 3 fav were Objects in Space, Out of Gas, War Stories). I liked what Sam Stone did with the tiers but I would change a few things.

Top Tier

Objects in Space
Out of Gas
War Stories
Ariel
Serenity

Very good or fun episodes

Jaynestown
Our Mrs. Reynolds
Trash
Safe
The Train Job

Weak for Firefly, but still better than most things on TV

Bushwacked
The Message
Shindig

Weak for TV

Heart of Gold