Yes I do agree with this, but also get a strong feeling that she looks down upon the ‘common man’, and sees herself above us.
OK yes you are right, but because it seems like I always hear her statement about everything, it just seems more obvious.
Didn’t someone mention how much credit they give H becasue she went to a place hostile to her? Same thing here, I knew my views were not welcome here, but I’m boldly posting them anyway
More importainly why has some of those who defend her have to turn this into a gender based issue, doing so is sexist and disgusting.
No I feel smug because I, with the help of you, I was able to better define my beef w/ H.
No there are some progressives, and liberals also
(just kidding, we all know that all sides can spew crap)
Well, if the First Lady happened to be a world-class nuclear physicist before her husband got elected to the White House, I’d hope she’d still be qualified to discuss nuclear physics even after she moved in, whether she’s pouring coffee or not.
Unless you’re suggesting that families moving into the White House get complimentary lobotomies. Which would explain the Bush daughters…
I understand that. But the implication of the statement that I was commenting on was that being First Lady is some kind of qualification, which it isn’t.
Heh. Who knows, if Hillary follows the path that some people have mapped out for her, maybe in four or eight years we’ll be talking about the appropriate qualifications for a First Gentleman.
Ever since 1990, when Bill Clinton was elected, something about him rubbed me the wrong way. Not his policies, not his politics, just something personal that I didn’t like. Hillary the same way. She’s always seemed politically tone-deaf and self-righteous. I just couldn’t buy the package, and their made-for-Montel Williams marriage.
That said, pretty much everything I’ve heard from Hillary since she’s been elected Senator has been right on. The political tone-deafness is gone. The snidyness is gone. The falseness is gone. Either she finally stopped listening to the image consultants or she finally started, either way I have offically stopped hating Hillary.
Going to Iraq is her job, especially as an opposition party member. She can’t just rely on reading the newspapers or even the committe briefings. Everything I’ve read her say about Iraq has been well concieved. The contention that she’s a grandstanding bitch for going to Iraq is stunningly stupid. She may or may not be a grandstanding bitch (You wouldn’t be able to form a quorum in Congress if you excluded bitches, let alone grandstanding ones), but why exactly is it a problem for her to go to Iraq?
Actually, First Lady has become a de facto public office, whether the President’s wife wishes it to be or not (and Mmes. Hoover and Truman emphatically did not). It’s worth noting that like her role model Eleanor Roosevelt, Hillary Clinton accomplished a great deal using her public-figure status. She did a good deal of pro bono work in Arkansas that led to the resolution of some significant problems there, according to a non-adulatory paperback biography I bought some years back (and now can’t find to cite details or source). And she worked in a professional legal capacity for the Special Prosecutor’s Office during Watergate, a fact not generally disseminated.
I honestly don’t know how well she has represented New York State during the last four years. I will observe that I lived for over 48 years, from the day Truman was reelected until 1998, in a small upstate city. Two years after I left, Hillary Clinton made several trips to that city in the course of her campaign. It was the first time an incumbent Senator or major party candidate for a Senate seate from New York had visited that city during my lifetime. We honestly and quite literally saw more of the Secretary of State in my childhood and youth than we did of our own Senators (John Foster Dulles was born there and had a vacation cottage near there).
Dislike Hillary all you want. Just try to base your dislike in actual reality. It’s always a good idea to have reasons for things, instead of making a decision first and then finding stupid stuff to justify that decision.
Make a poorly thought out point and then play the victim card. If the thread had continued, at some point we’d have ended up with some whining diatribe about how this board is full of Lefties and Righties can’t get a fair shake.
-Joe, on the road with no access for quite some time
[QUOTE=Sam Stone]
Hillary Clinton has rapidly become one of my favorite Democrats, and I mean that sincerely.
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You two are bringin’ a tear to a brother’s eye! Sounds like you might agree with what my wife said during the 1992 campaign, “No, Hillary and Tipper for president and vice-president. Bill and Al for, well, I don’t know what.”
