FXMastermind is exactly like the kind of disheveled man you can see worldwide in major cities, ranting and arguing with himself while standing on disreputable street corners. Sometimes there’s spittle.
Some of the current Japanese nuclear disaster headlines.
“Radiation from Fukushima may lead to decreased population in Japan” — Concerns about children’s health spread across northeast, Tokyo
“Severe internal exposure” — 252,422 Becquerels of radioactive cesium detected in person outside evacuation zone
NHK Special: Japan researchers found radiation levels exceeding most contaminated zone in Chernobyl called Red Forest
17 microsieverts/hr detected on cars from Japan — Russia rejects shipment
Idiots can spew nonsense, but face it, nobody cares.
Every time you post, you provide a perfect illustration of your claim.
I still get a laugh over this nonsense.
It’s just made up nonsense, but it exemplifies the bullshit spewed forth by internet experts.
Every time you post, you provide a perfect illustration of your claim.
FX, I’m honestly amazed how much you alternately knock down strawmen (accusing pro-nuclear types of LIKING what’s happening in Japan) and honestly demonstrate no actual knowledge of how radiation and radioactivity work (like not understanding that you get a slight radiation dosage from literally everything you eat with potassium in it–there’s a cumulative dosage that encompasses the amount of potassium and the time it takes each individual molecule to pass through your system, metabolize, and be excreted.).
It’s like a perfect storm.
The following is from the thread on Cecil’s piece from April 1 2011
That absurdity is actually a modern meme with some. It’s even presented as a ‘fact’ and the illogical reasoning behind it is presented with all the reassuring confidence of a con man selling you some Enron stock. It’s not unique to here of course. It’s widespread on internets.
A simple search on Google will show this to be true.
http://www.the5questions.com/unavoidable-fact-of-life-2-neither-is-anything-else-safe-that-is/
See? Amazing really.
Like the quoted post, the author has actually used rhetoric to convince you (they hope) that quite literally, there is no such thing as “safe”. The word is made to mean something else, through a verbal slight of hand the very word “safe” no longer means “safe”, it means “safer than something else”, but even that something else is not safe. Nothing is safe.
This is done to reassure you that one of the most dangerous devices known to man is actually really safe", or “not as dangerous as burning some coal”, or “much safer than walking down the street”. And the con artists might not even realize that is what they are doing. They are a true believer, they believe their own con.
It’s a powerful fallacy of course.
Then there is Cecil and
That is just so over the top it could be a “big lie”, which you should know about if you have two brain cellos left to rub together.
No, I am not going to respond in that thread, because I would break some rule or something. I couldn’t release the radioactivated Usenet spench bucket there.
Nor could the trolls respond in kind.
The worst case scenario, regarding Fukushima, would cause death and destruction at a level beyond anything in human history. Because it would involve the wind and rainfall going directly over Tokyo, then swinging around to dump radioactive material all over Japan, then into China and Asia as well, then North America and Europe.
If the damaged reactors and explosions caused all the fuel ponds to fail, dumping them into the melted cores, and eventually all the water exploded and steamed off, so they all burned, the amount of deadly material released onto japan, and then the world, would be of such a magnitude it would kill millions.
Many would die in the initial panic, 30 to 50 million people trying to flee from Japan would be the greatest panic disaster in history. Of course once the cloud covered other reactors, making them so deadly nobody could work there, those reactors would then fail, so that eventually 20 or 30 reactors (or more) would also be melting down, exploding and those fuel rods would then burn.
Just Fukushima alone has over 600 tons of plutonium in the spent fuel rods. But far more deadly are the fast decaying radioisotopes, and the strontium, cesium, cobalt and related products, including the plutonium created transition metals.
Cecil obviously wants to talk about a single reactor and a contained meltdown far from a large population center. Just the start of a meltdown of certain reactors would cause mass panic and so many people would die in just the chaos it would exceed war causalities.
Especially if we are talking a recent war. Haha
RichardSRussell never posted again in that thread. But he is wrong, and so is anyone else who promotes that ridiculous claim that “nothing is safe”, which is just pure bullshit of course. It’s like saying nothing is fun, only that some things are more fun than others, but nothing is really fun.
Shut the fuck up.
First, I never accused anyone of liking the Fukushima disaster. As a supporter of nuclear power I am appalled at the effect this has had, will have, on any chance of safe nuclear power ever becoming common place. Yes, I did say I support nuclear reactors for ships, which of course was overlooked by the yammering monkey tribe.
Ships have the clear advantage of dumping a core breach into the ocean depths, and they use sealed plutonium reactors, which do not need refueling. Yes there is still the problem of waste disposal, but as many have pointed out, the pollution from coal is a bigger problem. Fly ash is a monstrous pollution issue.
OK I also admit that since the Fukushima Disaster (FD) I have had to consider the ignored waste issue, and it really looks like that is a deal killer at this point. Just keeping all that radioactive shit around is a real problem. Moving it is a real problem. Guarding it is a real problem. Hell, just keeping groundwater and time from turning it into a disaster is a real problem.
As for using nuclear reactors to power ships, in reality it just never happened (except for the Russian icebreakers and military vessels of course).
The reason is pretty fucking obvious. Any ship with a plutonium reactor on it becomes so valuable it becomes a floating gold mine and has to be protected at all costs. The reactor(s) alone are more valuable than the entire ship and any cargo it carries.
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If I was trolling, or even just causing trouble, I would have been long gone. The trolls and one line idiots in this thread are obvious. That they are still posting tells how lax the Moderation is.
Linking to reality, like
http://enformable.com/2011/08/tepco-finds-more-areas-with-lethal-radiation-levels-over-10000-msv/
in which there are actually images from the gamma ray camera, that is the exact opposite of trolling.
See how that works?
Or maybe
in which we are soothed to know that Fukushima is far less dangerous than eating a banana.
It does not matter. When you point out the lies and coverups, when you point out the data proving the plant is far more dangerous than the nuke fans keep saying, you are just being an unfair anti nuker.
Most people thought nuclear energy was a safe and clean alternative. The antis have had their opinions changed by endless accidents and a few meltdowns. That is what makes some think it is a mistake. I suppose almost all of us started in the same spot, pro nuke ,good clean safe method.
Gonzo, you’re building such a strawman you could live in it like one of the three little pigs.
Fact: pro-nuclear types almost uniformly want to retire older plants and use newer, cleaner, safer designs.
Fact: pro-nuclear types almost uniformly ALSO want wind/solar/geo power, but recognize the vast capacity gap and reliability gap between those technologies and current large-plant methods.
Fact: pro-nuclear types almost uniformly want a minimum of total pollution, especially minimum total radiological pollution. That’s why we advocate for fast breeder reactors that eat the fuel from older plants, and why we are primarily violently against coal power.
Fact: Fukushima is a fairly large disaster. Also a fact: The things that pushed Fukushima over the edge from a minor problem to a major disaster are not related to nuclear power itself, but to the mismanagement and coverups specific to TEPCO and the specifics of maintaining an ancient plant design in an earthquake/tsunami zone. Also a fact: the aggregate loss of life and property from Fukushima, even with the current revelations as to the depth of the crisis, will probably never approach 1/10th of the loss of life and property of the triggering tsunami itself.
Yes, the myth of clean safe and CHEAP power production was sold to the public quite well. When you discover all of it was false, especially the CHEAP part, and the waste issue, it’s hard to tolerate the idiots who still buy the party line and want to insist it STILL is safe, cheap and clean.
When they drag actually clean safe and CHEAP power production methods in, and say they aren’t, the irony is almost too much to take.
It was nonsense then, and it’s nonsense now. It’s the nuclear trolls and strident supporters at-all-cost of nuclear reactors who had from the start posted one liners, insults, derision, sidetracks, commentary on other’s mental states, motivations and what other mindless shitpost they can summon up.
They never try to have a conversation. No answering of questions, no responses to points or data presented, no scientific commentary, it’s always just stupid troll shit.
The few times people responded in a real way, I always responded back.
I still do.
That the shitposters don’t realize they are doing what they want to say I am doing, that is just epic lulz.
When presented with an example of exactly what I said the topic was about, stupid reporting, the trolls never ever talk about it.
http://greenteeth.blog.co.uk/2011/03/27/bananas-more-dangerous-than-fukushima-10900167/
There is is again. “The thing to remember about radiation is it’s not as dangerous as fear and panic.”
That is so beyond stupid, there is no possibility of reaching the mind of someone who can type that out. It’s a level of insanity only reached by the religious.
That the ‘smart’ people here actually fucking AGREE with that sort of complete bullshit, well, it is embarrassing actually.
And since you’re not a troll, linking to such things just to keep your thread bumped and to try to pick a fight with rational people, you will immeditely cite just how many deaths that lethal radiation has led to? How about how many people have gotten a lethal dose and will be suffering and dying shortly?
It must be a lot, right?
Remember kids, bananas are dangerous, but nuclear power is not.
Yeah, here are some people freaking out about the possibility of increased cancer.
What’s the death toll up to now, Kenneth? Admittedly I can’t find any good statistics on death by banana ingestion per year, but I’m guessing that it’s higher than zero. 
(Since you are going to keep persisting in this strawman I think a continual program of mocking you like the stone monkey you are is in order. For anyone just joining the discussion, no one claims that nuclear power is danger free, nor that bananas are inherently more dangerous…it’s simply that our idiotic friend here has a hard time reading for comprehension. He also has a hard time with tying his shoes, let alone walking, and he frequently stand in a puddle of urine because he forgot about the whole ‘bathroom’ thingy…)
-XT
The entire article I linked to is about reassuring us how bananas are radioactive, and nuclear power plants are much safe.
The fucking title is
Bananas More Dangerous Than Fukushima?
Even a cursory reading reveals that the author is saying exactly that “nuclear power is danger free, bananas are inherently more dangerous”.
Of course trolls don’t bother to read anything, which is why they create lulz.
I didn’t bother to inform the asshat who wrote the article that he says "If you are the type of person who listens to the fear and panic merchants you will now be sewaring never to even look at another banana in case you die or grow two heads. "
Idiots should be left to their opinions and mistakes. It’s funny.