Rape should be legal, as long as it's not "violent"

My grandfather rationalized that telling a prisoner to choose between opening up for him or for his five subordinates wasn’t rape: after all, she’d chosen.

Was he sincere in his belief? Sure. As he was sincere in his belief that teaching his 5yo grandsons to masturbate in front of his pedophile friends (who would then owe him favors) was fine. After all, everybody enjoys masturbation, right?

BEING A SINCERE PIECE OF SHIT DOESN’T MAKE ANYBODY STINK LESS.

This. For example if such a “sincere” piece of shit ever had ever made such advances on say my sister, he’d be dead. He’d be - as they sang in the Wizard Of Oz, SINCERELY DEAD.

Yes, you were.

I can multi-task. I have no problem attacking what Daniel Shravan said while also pointing out that you’re making a very poor argument.

From the link:

This was in “liberal” Austin, no less.

It was more than 25 years ago, so there’s that.

Okay, you DO realize that A. this guy tried to attack ME; and B: if you face a guy like that, it might help you to escape him or interrogate him. Jesus fucking Christ.

I notice you ignored the followup :

… because of course you can’t.

Fuck off.

No, U.

And what is preventing me from making my own version =)

Just read the link in the OP…

How do these people walk among us?
I’d like to know how on earth he came to his viewpoint and - AND - is comfortable enough to express this view in public
At any rate, I suspect none of the females in his life have had to suffer such a fate…

(and if they have, that’s just even more f**ked up…)

However, aborting a pregnancy resulting from rape should be illegal, because “the baby didn’t do anything wrong.” Apparently tying a woman to her rapist for the rest of her life is not “wrong.”

I think the root of the argument to include rape/incest fetuses in anti-abortion proposals is that the wrongness of the situation (the relationship between the adults, from which the pregnancy was not universally desired) is less wrong than the wrongness of taking the life of a child because it is expedient to do so.

If killing an otherwise viable fetus is a bad thing sometimes, it should always be considered a bad thing. I find that argument to be refreshingly honest about its intentions, although I do not agree with it.

I don’t think the abortion issue plays the same role in Indian culture and politics that it plays here. I don’t see any reason to believe that this guy is anti-abortion.

Aside from the fact that it would require the woman * to be raped* and considering that society hasn’t changed enough at all, do you really think any woman would be believed? There’s also the danger of an enraged, injured rapist----and his friends.

Here’s a clear-cut case where a man attacked a woman and SHE got 20 years for firing a warning shot----in the state where George Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin in cold blood and claimed self defense. Marissa Alexander case - Wikipedia

Although I’m sure our brave Repubs will try and nitpick it to death.

Another pro-rape dude.

I was assuming you read your own posts and were aware of what you had written. Apparently not.

So here’s the whole dialogue:

And as a bonus, here’s a collection of you demonstrating your skills as a debater:

She should have emptied the gun in his face and then invoked “Stand Your Ground”.
Hopefully in the very near future, SOMEONE will. Because rapists don’t just decide one day to stop.

That one doesn’t seem that clear cut. Or maybe it is just badly written.

The links says he threatened to kill her via text, not that he attacked her. It also says that she was in his house. It doesn’t say when she got the texts. Then she went to her car to grab a gun and came back into his kitchen. That is not standing your ground.
She then fired ‘a warning shot’.

That doesn’t seem as much of a warning shot as it does evidence that someone needs to spend some time at the firing range to work on her aim.

In any event, she did three years and is now out.

We will now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion.

It’s badly written. Other sources state she fired a warning shot into the ceiling. He had a history of violence towards her, and she had just given birth nine days earlier. In addition, she had both a restraining order and a license to carry. She is five feet two, while her husband weighs 245 lbs.

Jeez, I fucking hate my goddamned phone. It loads so slow you’d think it was fucking dial up.

And Jesus fucking Christ, it tells me I’m logged in when I’m about to post, then says, “Psych! No you’re not!”

Like I said - nowhere in that first post do I say anything about legalization, and only about attitude.

So: bullshit lies from you as to what “claim” I was making. Thanks for quoting it.

This is *you *demonstrating your shitty skills at knowing what forum you’re in (not that you’re not *also *wrong about the facts)

So, I say again: Fuck Off.

I am aware this is the BBQ Pit. But I don’t feel the need to swear at people in frustration. I’m capable of winning an argument and showing them to be fools, which is much better.

You may not understand that I won this round. But the evidence is there and everyone else can see it.

So basically, these legalize rape proponents want women’s lives to be circumscribed by their dependence on men.