I can’t imagine Fox would get pissed if Charlie Daniels. Ted Nugent or any other rabid right wing entertainer went to the White House. Sure Daniels tells black jokes at his concerts but he doesn’t use the N word, and he said proudly that the small town south isn’t going to put up with no dang gay pride march anytime soon (one gay group offered to do one if at the same time Daniels would sing The South’s Gonna Do It Again at a concert in Harlem- he didn’t respond), but he’s old and white so that’s okay.
Well, yeah, obviously not. Bob Dylan isn’t a “thug” “rapper”. That makes it totally different.
Johnny Cash once shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die. Then he played at a prison, strongly identifying with the prisoners themselves. But he also was neither “thug” nor a “rapper” so he’s A-OK.
Anyone watch the debate? I can’t yet since I’m at work, but I’m wondering what those who don’t have dogs in either camp think especially.
He’s also seventy years old, and not really a relevant cultural figure anymore. If he’d been invited to the White House in the mid-sixties, there probably would have been a similar “scandal” to the one around Common.
I think I’m being relatively objective when I say Stewart took this one. Of course in a real debate O’Reilly would have lost for interrupting alone.
Springsteen wrote a song about a convicted killer?
Convicted and executed no less. Nebraska was inspired by Charles Starkweather.
And Tom Joad is definately glorifiying a convicted murderer, albeit a fictional one.
(Not really sure why we’re asking about Springsteen though)
Stewart mentioned him in the debate linked to above as somebody who’s sung about convicted murderers yet been to the White House without causing an outrage on Fox.
Well that would explain why he was honored by President Obama.
Johnny Cash visited the White House numerous times and performed for numerous presidents. Imagine how Fox would react if his Delia’s Gone was a rap song.
Your contention is that Obama is pro-murder, and hence seeks out people who sing about it to the White House?
O’Reilly moved the goal posts about three times during that one interview (or as Stewart said, kept moving to smaller and smaller boxes). Fox News would supply great examples for teaching critical thinking.
Ted Nugent once said he wanted to kill American soldiers in their fox holes. He also admitted to having sex with his own teenaged daughter, but he gets called a “patriot” by Fox News.
We could probably start a new thread of “name artists who have works that portray a murderer in a positive light and have performed at the White House”? Paul McCartney has “Maxwell’s Silver Hammer”. I’m sure there must be more.
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I’ve never heard that before. What’s the deal here?
The Fox News argument would be that he never sang about killing cops.
I was surprised Stewart was able to meet O’Reilly’s more stringent standards for poets. For me it’s enough that violence is a part of almost every famous musician’s discography. Who cares if it’s a song about killing cops or killing your girlfriend?
Stewart was able to find other musicians who sang about cop killers, and then of course O’Reilly moved the goalposts once again.
He once adopted a teenaged girl so he could legally bang her.
http://www.nme.com/photos/the-21-grossest-moments-in-rock/170145/17/5
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Also didn’t Nugent once boast about dodging the draft back in the '60s?