Re: Closure of the Big T thread.

This is her quote asking for clarification. It was in her OP.

The OP has indicated that she is done. I will close this thread in twelve hours unless someone objects. If anyone wants the same done with thread that this thread discusses, please let me know.

Gfactor
Moderator

On reflection, I find I do have one other thing to add.

I believe you may also owe BigT an apology for the accusation of trying to ‘game the system’. That’s not really fair, in my mind. He only asked, it was Twickster who acted. Shouldn’t she be getting the note? Isn’t it the moderators job to stop posters gaming the system? Why should BigT take the hit?

(Of course, he’ll no sooner get an apology than I will.) Just thought I’d point that out.

Okay, I’m really and truly out of here now.

(And your new vanity title, lifted from my post, very mature indeed!)

Again, I want to point out that I expected you guys to decide whether it needed to be closed or not. I don’t see why it should be my job to decide, since I’m not the one actually doing the closing.

I honestly expected it to stay open for at least a few hours. I actually thought of saying something when I saw twickster close it, but I figured I’d complained and whined enough for a while.

I will in the future try not to do this. My current plan is to announce that I’m going to ask for it to be closed in a little while. But I still think a general policy of giving it a few hours would be better. There will always be people who want threads closed.

I see you (Gfactor) already use this method. Awesome! I’m just suggesting it for other mods.

As for an apology. Nah. I can understand why it looks bad, or I wouldn’t have went to so much trouble to explain.

Really? The OP politely asks a question about a mod action and the mod in question comes in and apparently breaks the rules by being jerkish and makes an unsubstantiated personal attack. Instead of an apology, said mod then responds in a snarky manner and it’s not OK for the OP to question it in the same thread it occurred?

You make an excellent point, most assuredly. Alas, it’s not going to have any more effect than asking for a cite, or an actual apology for the insult.

(Hey Oy, look at me, I finally got it right. A quote with the ‘posted by’ thingy, thanks again for the learning!)

I was thinking the same thing, PlainJain. Also the irony of mod promising to soon close this thread. Maybe twickster should have started a separate thread in which to make the questionable comment. :rolleyes:

You request the closure but it’s not your job to decide…? So you’re not responsible if your request is granted? What?
And although you requested it, you figured it would stay open for a while? :rolleyes: Why didn’t you then let it stay open for a while longer before making the request?

I think I should bow out of here now too, there is just too much stupid going on from so many different angles, it’s not worth getting involved in.

I thought I was arguing for the principle of the thing but it seems there isn’t a trace of that here.

Why shouldn’t that get its own thread? What does it have to do with the OP?

I’m working on it.

I’m glad you get it. Thanks. :slight_smile:

Just to be clear, I did not ask for this thread to be closed. And when I said, “I’m done, you win.” I was referring to trying to reasonably discuss this with** Gfactor**.

I do not want it closed and am willing to discuss this further with, and continue to read comments from, other posters, as I’d be very interested in their views on what went down here.

And I would also like an explanation why mods can’t discuss the personal attack on me in this, the very thread it was in, or the lame non apology that followed.

And the silliness multiplies, exponentially.

First Gfactor complains that my tone was not polite at all. When it was pretty clear it was. When I point out her tone could easily be interpreted as disingenuously combative and hostile, she lifts the phrase and makes it her vanity title for a time. :eek: When I point out that’s not terribly mature, she undoes it.

Next she says she can’t even parse what it is I’m saying. Then she goes ahead and chastises BigT for the very thing I was talking about. Which, of course, she couldn’t work out at all. :dubious: How it’s Big T’s fault I can’t see.

Then she says there is no ‘protocol’ for thread closure. And a few posts later, posts exactly that, she herself composed and posted over a year ago. :rolleyes: Which, in fact, specifically mentions what I am talking about in this thread.

When I ask her to address the unfounded characterization of my posting history, another mod made, in this thread, I’m told to start another thread. A personal attack followed by a non apology can’t be discussed in the thread it occurred in? Huh?:eek:

And now, she’s reopened the thread that this was all in reference to.

Maybe it’s just silly Sunday, but all of this leaves me completely baffled.

Wouldn’t it have just been easier to say, “Hmmm, you have a point, we’ll reopen it for a few hours, and give people a chance to respond.” How is it better to roundly abuse a long time paying poster, including a personal attack, for daring to question a mod decision, only to end up doing what was being implied, in the end? No acknowledgment of error, of course.

Anyone else left baffled by all this nonsense?

Yes, baffled. How is the OP not polite? And when is an apology not an apology? I only see one or two people being impolite in this thread, and neither of them is elbows.

I still think that your original beef should have been with BigT but I can’t really stand behind the mod behavior in this thread.

I want to apologize to you for all of this. I was out of line. I actually still don’t think the OP was polite, but I recognize that I’m probably mistaken in my view. Moreover, those activies took us far off track for no good reason–whether the OP was polite or not wasn’t relevant. I’m sorry. I’ll try to avoid this sort of thing in the future.

It’s he.

I’ll respond to the rest of your post when I get a chance. I’m going to be watching the Lost finale tonight, so it will probably be sometime tomorrow.

I want you to know I greatly appreciate your apology Gfactor. I mean that sincerely.

Any chance you feel like explaining to us what’s so hard about just saying, “Mmm, maybe you have a point there, we’ll reopen it for a few hours in case the cited posters do want to respond.”?

Sorry about the ‘she’, I was unaware, I won’t make that mistake again.

Actually, I shouldn’t have posted anything. I took my daughter to Cedar Point, we’d stayed until closing and then I had to drop her off at her mom’s, and then drive home. I was exhausted. I was punchy. Those are good reasons not to post. I’m sorry to have made things worse. It really was a silly Sunday.:o

Now I’m off to watch lost.

Don’t sweat it, everyone has bad days, everyone misspeaks, we’re all just human after all. I understand completely and sincerely and gratefully accept your apology.

Going back to twickster’s delighful post, I wanted to bring something up:

**twickster **- do you see, after a lengthy discussion as well as action from a different mod to open it back up, a useful purpose for keeping the thread open now?

I’d just really love to understand what’s so hard about saying, "“Hmmm, you have a point, we’ll reopen it for a few hours, and give people a chance to respond.”

Seriously, how hard is that? Who’s hurt by it? Other than the ego of the mod who has their authority questioned.

It couldn’t really be that simple, could it?

Instead we got lots of drama, almost a hundred posts, and exactly the same result. Oh, and a gratuitous insult, of course.

Don’t forget the half-assed insincere apology.