So what’s your problem here?
If someone offends you, and then doubles down on it when called out, what exactly is your response? How is Sunny Daze’ response so dramatically different than yours?
When dropzone pitted Little Pig, was he demonstrating contempt for the First Amendment? Or is it only when someone gets annoyed about something you think they shouldn’t that they are demonstrating contempt for the First Amendment?
I am utterly baffled by your argument.
So we have the free speech rights to tell someone about it when they sound like an asshole, right?
Absolutely.
The quote in my post up there from our delicate flower SunnyDaze struck me as haughty in the extreme.
We are supposed to make sure she’s not wounded by our posts, or if so apologize?
Well. Fuck that shit.
We have these neat things here on the SDMB called “Moderators” and unless they arrive in a thread to make adjustments, I couldn’t give one fuck if SunnyDaze feels I owe her an apology.
I abide by the rules as enforced by the Mods, not her.
Hence my referencing of the 1st Amendment. Within the construct of the Board Rules, my free speech isn’t limited by her feelings.
Amazing how often people wave the first amendment around to claim that they can say anything they want and NO ONE can say anything about it.
Just stupid on the face of it.
Who are you arguing with? Who has suggested that your free speech should be limited?
according to him unless the mods say something about it you cant ask anyone to stop posting anything for any reason because of "free speech "
thank you, it’s perfect.
people pointing out your speech is stupid or you are an asshole doesn’t mean you don’t have free speech.
duh.
Good grief. **Sunny **wasn’t trampling on anyone’s First Amendment rights, she was explaining a basic social interaction that she shouldn’t have had to explain: How To Get Along With People 101. She’s one of the most reasonable posters on the entire board.
You’re talking to a guy who was concerned about how much nazi propaganda he might be exposed to while on vacation in Germany and thought he had grounds to make a federal complaint with the FBI because he suspected his downstairs neighbor, in NYC, was smoking pot.
At first glance he doesn’t really strike me as a free-speech kind of guy, but apparently when it comes to keeping the womenfolk in line he’s a big fan of it.
Your free speech is not limited by her feelings. Her free speech is not limited by YOUR feelings. Sunny had the Free Speech to say that she found that initial remark offensive. I have the Free Speech to say you sound like an asshole.
Cool, huh?
This is a hilariously hyperbolic response to a perfectly reasonable post. I especially like how Sunny Daze’s words, “You hear me out, then decide” evidently translates to, in the native language of Cartooniverse, as “Apologize or else.”
Or else what, sir? What exactly did you think her implied threat was? “Apologize, or, or…I’ll post at you!”
Only a very insecure individual would see that as a threat.
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+1.
This reminds me of an argument I got in with a friend the other day. I said there were certain works of literature I couldn’t stand because of the obvious bigotry of the author. I didn’t even make a categorical statement, I just said, ‘‘Sometimes it bothers me, sometimes it doesn’t, depends on the context.’’
He was like, ‘‘Well, we’re writers, it’s no big deal, I can read anything, I can read about an island full of women who hate men, and I’m not offended.’’
I suggested to it him that it’s a tad different if you’re looking into some fresh new perspective on a lark, but in my situation it’s more like I’m bombarded with negative stereotypes of my own gender and live with those social consequences, to some extent, every day of my life, so fuck wasting my time with some writer who clearly doesn’t respect me.
But his response was, ‘‘Your philosophy is what led to Fahrenheit 451**.’’
When I asked him to elaborate, he said it was because people wanted to ban books they found offensive.
That’s super, because I never fucking said anything about banning books. I said I didn’t like to read certain books by certain authors because their bigotry bothered me, and somehow that became an appropriate time for him to reference fascism. I love how I am the fascist for not doing something I don’t want to do.
I am truly bewildered by this line of thinking.
**This is amusing because Ray Bradbury is one of my favorite writers of all time, and also a good example of bugshit insane writers who don’t pollute their novels with bigoted garbage, whatever their weird ass personal ideologies may be.
Yeah, for anyone unfamiliar with Cartooniverse, his relationship with reality is tenuous at best.
Ohhhhhhh. I see now. It’s obvious. You’re a moron.
Plonk.
The fact that your idiocy is visible to me and others is a sign of Free Speech being exercised. No one and nothing prevents you from using words on this board and IRL to demonstrate your tenuous grasp on the Bill of Rights and anything else you read a summary of once.
Free Speech isn’t free of judgment by others or consequences arising thereof. Someone judging your words to be rancid, runny catshit smeared on this message board doesn’t remove them, so your speech has not been restricted.
God, what a jackass.
I love it when folks don’t read for context before replying.
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The post you quoted was an answer to Rittersport about apologies. Nothing to do with you, my little snowflake. If Rittersport feels wronged, I hope he will let me know.
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You were not mentioned in my OP. Why do you think I asked you for an apology? In fact, I didn’t ask the posters in my OP for an apology. I just asked them to think before posting.
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The mods did tell the posters in question in my OP to stop it with the joke in the first thread (to your point about the mods).
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Of course what you post isn’t limited by my feelings. Who said that it was?
You really are an idiot of impressive proportions. Trump should hire you to make him look good. There’s no need to apologize for offending delicate little me with your presence. I suspect you owe everyone else you interact with some sort of ongoing penance, however.
Appreciation where it is due.
Well, it’s a slippery slope. First you don’t like a book, and before you know it, you’re Guy Effing Montag with a big-ass flame thrower in your hands burning the damn things!