Not slagging on the franchise. If I could dream up something half as hot, I’d be set for life.
The franchise was effing brilliant. Though in all honesty, the early SATC was more of a gay man’s fantasy of what single women’s lives would be like. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Action movies featuring stars over 35 are most definitely wish fulfillment. The vast majority of men pushing forty have left their ass kicking days well behind them. When the star in question is pushing fifty it becomes laughable.
Out of Time (2003) - IMDb This movie, Out of Time, featured a 48 yo Denzel duking it out w/ former star athlete Dean Cain, who was 12 years younger.
The only way a 48 yo man kicks a 36 yo man’s ass, is if the 48 yo is smart enough to outthink the young’n. Otherwise, the 48 yo is well advised to run like a girl. (That’s certainly what I would do at 46 if I encountered my 34 yo self in a dark alley. Or really be smart, and carry a gun.)
First of all, I am a fan of the show and know a bunch of others, and none of us are weirder or more fanatical than big sports or video game fans. Seriously. So, in true dueling anecdotes fashion, I’m going to have to disagree. You don’t have to explain to me why you don’t like it. Of course (straight) guys dislike it. It’s not FOR YOU. You’re not the target audience, so you don’t get it. That’s OK, right? You think it’s weirder because the appeal is totally lost on you, but that doesn’t actually make it weirder.
The only place I’ve ever seen anyone talk about anyone getting insulted by someone liking Charlotte is men talking about how put upon they are because they like Charlotte. Whatever.
What I can’t understand is, if you dislike the show and its fans so much, why even bother with a thread about the show or movie? I don’t enter threads about football or NASCAR or Halo because I have no interest and find it kinda dumb, but hey, you like it, more power to ya. Why do so many people feel the need to crap on this franchise and its stars? Is Bridget Burke right that men find it offensive that older, less stereotypically attractive women are shown as sexy and sexual, but are totally OK when a pushing 70 Harrison Ford type scores with a woman decades younger? If so, as she said, too bad.
Sorry, but where do I insult 40 year old women, suggest they’re too ugly to hook up, or accuse anyone of living out anything through a TV show?
Please provide me specific examples of me writing those things, because I do not recall suggesting anything of the sort. You can supply the quotes or refer to the post numbers.
Oh, calm down. I was replying only to you only in the first part of my reply, where you snidely asked me if I wrote the script because I was doubting the premise that the characters in the show would be avidly chasing men in this movie. The rest of it was directed at other posters in the thread and in the site linked by the OP, who expressed negative sentiments. The entirety of my post was not directed at you, obviously, since your post was only one line.
Um, I’m not getting this whole hate thing going on.
We didn’t watch SATC the first time around because we don’t do premium cable. MrSin watched some episodes on the road and liked them and then the sinkid lent us year one.
We enjoyed it, laughed at the silly girls and the silly guys and subsequently bought all the episodes. MrSin liked it way more than I did. I thought the “girls” were beyond stupid most of the time. But, meh, it was entertaining and we had fun MST3King every episode.
Watch it or not, no big deal. Why are the looks of the women stars so important? Mr. Big is getting a bit pudgy too. No hate for him?
That’s the thing-- the women on this show are not enviable. Carrie makes terrible decisions often and behaves like an idiot, suffering the consequences of her bad judgment time and time again. Ditto the other characters, to a lesser extent. They are not women I fantasize about being or wish to emulate. I do like the clothes, shoes, and bags sometimes… other times, they are hideous and hilarious, so we laugh at them or marvel. Overall, it’s not wish fulfillment that makes me watch the show. I find the characters to be articulate, engaging, interestingly dressed and shod fuck ups.
That said, I also don’t find it hard to believe that any of them could get laid. They are all in great physical shape, and while most of them have average faces for their ages, come on, they look pretty decent for 40-50 somethings. For the most part, in the show they did not date younger, extremely hot men. Occasionally, sure, but for the most part, the men the characters dated and married were age appropriate or older. None of the husbands on the show are raving beauties or man candy. Samantha had Smith for a while and he was a young stud, but she ran the gamut, believe me, and not all of them were hot, or even male. Her love life was a caricature and definitely not meant to be realistic.
I think people make a lot of shit up about this show because they dislike the premise and don’t really know enough about it to make an informed criticism. There’s plenty to criticize, but most of the negatives I see offered are not on target.
Really Seinfeld is a better example. The characters never show any growth or learning at the end of each episode. In Friends (which seems typical of most sitcoms where the characters start out as fun and faboulous young adults) most of them eventually settled down and got married.
Jesus, I shouldn’t have said anything. Sex and the City needs to go on the list of things you don’t talk about with religion and politics as things that are too controversial for everyday talk.
Yeah, probably, since you don’t even watch the show, why comment? You haven’t explained that to me yet. And no, it’s not that it’s so controversial, it’s that men feel compelled to be really negative about it despite professing to know next to nothing about it. If you disagree or correct them, you’re the one who’s being touchy. It’s so predictable and annoying.
I don’t agree with her characterization of Charlotte. However, she is right, since most men like yourself only know about SATC from pictures of the cast and what they imagine it’s about based on hearsay and one or two eps they watch, they tend to pick the cutest one, which is Charlotte. Kristin Davis is obviously the most traditionally pretty and most demurely dressed, so I’m not surprised straight men like her the best.
I’ve seen the show enough times to know I dislike it. Every husband/boyfriend has. It goes with the territory of living with a woman anytime in the last decade.
But yet, you ignore that she slams men for liking Charlotte because “she’s the virginal one”. I didn’t pull that quote out of my ass, she said it. And she said again here:
All I’m saying is that guys who bash SATC have likely watched an episode or twelve, so they’re not just ragging on something they have no experience with. And then I’m saying that there are women out there who do seem mortally offended that a guy would find Charlotte attractive, whether it be plot-related reasons or because “she’s the most conventionally pretty” (and why that’s held up as a reason why we shouldn’t find her attractive is even more baffling).
Jesus, Ruby. Leave your baggage at home. I would like to discuss the OP.
I am actually intrigued by the idea that CGI may be used to make older actors look younger. Does anyone know how common this is or may become in the future?
That thread is almost exactly a year old. Kind of a long time to be carrying a chip on your shoulder over a comment in a thread you didn’t even post in about a show you don’t even like.
That’s nice. Thanks. Why not leave your personal attacks at home? I actually watch the show, so why not take issue with those commenting who don’t? They aren’t actually adding anything to the discussion, just slagging off on a show that pisses them off. I would think it would be them with the baggage, no?
ETA: Thanks, Lamia, for demonstrating my point about who has the baggage here. Also, the OP isn’t about CGI being used to make actors look younger, it’s about how ugly the actresses are, so…
Who’s carrying a chip on their shoulder? The question was posed, “why do men dislike Sex and the City so much?” I answered the question and I got jumped on.
As for that thread being a year old, it is the first SATC-related thread that comes up when searching the boards for “Charlotte sex city” because I knew I had read that “men love Charlotte because she’s a virgin” crap here as well as hearing it in the real world. It was just an easily linkable example to prove it does happen. And I only sought it out because Ruby specifically mentioned earlier in this thread that it never really happens:
No, that was not the question that was posed. It was why are men go out of their way to be so NASTY about the show and its stars. I can easily understand why you might not like it. What I can’t understand is why, every time a thread or post is made about the show, the movies, or SJP, a bunch of guys who swear they do not watch it come in and make shitty comments. It’s a bonafide phenomenon. I’d think, if you have no interest in the show, you’d just avoid threads about it, but nope. Gotta come in and take your shot. THAT was my question, not “Why don’t men like it?”
Does it happen to you anywhere but here on the SDMB? And if so, I have to wonder why you are involved in so many discussions of a show that you profess to hate and not watch. I watch it and like it, and know many people who do, and yet I’ve never heard that particular conversational topic arise IRL. Just here.
That is just baffling to me. The extent of my knowledge of Sex and the City is pretty much what I’ve gathered from walking past tv sets that were showing it, and Charlotte is my favorite. She’s the hottest. I’m pretty sure the exact same thing can be said for every guy I know. I like intelligent, assertive, experienced women for christ’s sake. But that doesn’t trump one of them being about 10 times more attractive than the other three.
But you think you do with me? I don’t even know who you are, much less why you’re giving me such a hard time right now. The topic of the thread, based on the OP, is the attractiveness of the actresses in SATC. Reread it and see if I’m not right. There is no mention of CGI to age actresses whatsoever. So, it seems that my posts are the ones that are on topic, and yours are not. You seem bent not only on attacking me but in junior modding. If you want to talk about CGI to make actors older or younger, maybe it’s you who needs to open another thread, no?
Then I misunderstood. My apologies. I thought the question was “Why do men that have seen SATC hate it so much and feel the need to comment?”
I work in a library with two dozen other women. I have five male co-workers and three are under 18. SATC came up often in conversation when the show was still airing and the movie was new.
If your fucking question was “Why don’t men like Sex in the City?” Then open you’re own fucking thread.
When you come into a thread completely unrelated to that question and start fucking interrogating people as to “Why do you NOT FUCKING LIKE SITC,” then, of course, you can expect the outcome.
So, please, kindly refrain from doing that and STFU. It’s obvious that you’re spoiling for a fight so take it elsewhere.
Would anyone else like to answer my question – you know, the one related to the OP – about the photographs and CGI? How common is this? Will it be something that will become common in the industry