Reasons Civ 3 makes my life miserable.

#1: Good Lord- air support doesn’t work, coastal fortresses don’t work, the AI moving units at peace is broken (according to Firaxis, when at peace, the AI moves units around randomly “on patrol”, which takes five or more minutes given the number of pieces)… it’s been over a month, and these are nearly game-breaking problems. Where’s the patch?

#2: I’m sorry, but you damn well should have known that naming the various barbarian tribes would create the wrong impression. I simply cannot play the Germans any longer; every time I see one of my cities invaded by “Goth warriors” I am overwhelmed by the images of pale horsemen in black mascara and spiky chainmail that exposes way too much flesh riding over the horizon. And then I must lie down until I stop shaking with laughter.

#3: I’ll sleep after the next turn. Honest.

#4: Give me my goddamned patch.

#5: No. No tundra. You want me to start up the Romans, you give me some damned land where I can wear a toga. Stop starting me in the goddamned frosty north. Ctrl-Shift-Q.

#6: I said, no goddamned tundra. You want a production advantage and to start me off in the suckiest suckland that ever sucked this side of Suckville? No. Ctrl-Shift-Q.

#7: Ah. Desert. Oh, you’ve got a sense of humor now, don’t you? Ctrl-Shift-Q.

#8: Here patch, patch, patch, patch, patch!

#9: That’s my land, Zulu! Lousy Expansionist mother-fuckers.

#10: I’ll eat after the next turn. Honest.

#11: Work with my fucking sound card, you piece of shit. Everything else works. But no, you have to play the sound in StereoCrapTastic, with the music patchy and distorted, and crashing every time it tries to play a goddamned movie. Like the intro movie (which space bar happily circumvents).

#12: Or the ending movie. I just spent forty fucking hours building a fantastic civilization, rolling over the Greeks and the Egyptians, holding off the Japanese and the Chinese while I build my spaceship. Forty buck and forty hours spent on this goddamned game- I deserve a treat at the end. And I get? Black screen. Reboot.

#13: And fuck you, girlfriend, for reacting to that like it was no big deal. No, wait, not merely that- talking down to me like I was an idiot for being upset.

#14: Fucking patch. Gimme a fucking patch, fuckers.

#15: And while speaking on said girlfriend matters, when I play the goddamned game, I’m in “neutral” mode. I can drop it at any time to do other stuff. So when you say, “I think I’ll put in a DVD later”, and I say, “Okay, great”, that means “Come and get me when you decide what you want to watch”, not “start a DVD and don’t say anything to me because you’re sure my game is more important to me than you are, and then when I go out for a smoke and notice that you’re watching a DVD and end up getting engrossed but have to ask you who such-and-such is and why so-and-so is doing that, don’t snort at me and say, ‘Well, maybe you should have started watching this movie from the beginning’.” Are we clear?

#16: I can step away from this game at any point. And after the next turn, I will.

#17: Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch, I’m looking for the paaaaaaaaaaaatch…

#18: No multiplayer. Multiplayer comes out in three months and will likely cost twenty bucks. And given the level of support given for the game already (patch?), multiplayer will be all you get for your twenty bucks.

#19: Stop killing off the goddamned Russians, dammit. And the Zulus. They’re the only cultures I haven’t seen the modern portraits for! But no, every game I end up keeping the Zulus and the Russians get whacked.

#20: Goddamit, I said no tundra. Ctrl-Shift-Q.

#12 ROFLMAO - the first time I got to Alpha-Centari (on Civ II) I was like…“thats it!!!” No secret handshake to the Sid Myer Society, no free software to download, no coupon for an upgrade, THATS IT???

John Corrado, could we get together a small pool to get you nicotine patches until you get that other patch? :slight_smile:

I was up until 2 in the morning playing this damned game. At least one benefit of being unemployed is that I have nowhere special to be the next morning.

Can I add a little complaint about the game here? Part of the reason why I was up until 2 in the freaking morning is because the war I (playing as the English) started with the Americans. They were, quite frankly, getting too big for their britches and started demanding technology and gold from me. Plus, the Americans were pulling ahead of me in the score column, and my science production is moving so slowly that it is doubtful I would get the spaceship launched before 2050.

I decided that a nice little war would help, but I didn’t want to be the one that started it.

I sent some propaganda experts into Detroit and managed to convince the citizens of that benighted burg that life was indeed greener on the English side. Lincoln was annoyed.

I then tried to expose an American mole, and it backfired. Lincoln lost his cool and declared war.

Which is what I wanted him to do. Prior to all of this espionage activity, I had formed four battle groups, each one poised to take a major American city. I had arranged right of passage agreements with the Indians and the Japanese, so that they would be merely spectators when the fur started flying.

I grabbed Chicago, San Francisco, Atlanta, and Washington in just two turns. France, Japan, and China all declared war on America at the same time…without any prompting from me, which I saw as just a nice bonus. The massive American army was split among four fronts, and it was easy pickings.

Then things got messy. America had a mutual protection pact with India, which wasn’t a concern because India’s military might was pretty much nonexistent. I had slapped neighoring India around but good back in the 12th century, and they were largely confined to a small range of four cities plus a tiny island port. But India and France signed a pact together, and France declared war on me.

France had a pre-existing pact with Japan. Another nation against me.

China, for reasons I still fail to understand, thought it would be grand to declare war on me too.

After about ten years of war, I had doubled my nation’s size, largely at America’s expense. Japan, France, and China all had the roads around their capitals bombed into oblivion. Mass unhappiness everywhere except in jolly old England. I decided that I had achieved the objectives that I wanted, and began arranging peace talks.

The French and Chinese said, “sure.” India was wiped off the continent by this point, and were only happy to arrange to hang onto their sole remaining island city.

Japan gave me the silent treatment, and pressed on with their offensive.

When Japan attacked ME again the following turn, their pact with France and India caused those bastards to declare war on me AGAIN.

Round and round it went for ten more years, with me fighting to hang onto what I’ve rightfully conquered, until I was finally able to arrange for peace treaties with everyone AT THE SAME TIME.

The patch should fix it so that it is a DEFENSIVE PACT, not an offensive pact. I got really tired of signing peace treaties with France and India, only to strike out with Japan and be back at square one the following turn.

Those fucking mutual protection pacts are EVIL.

Oh, as for the video clips at game’s end, I have another complaint.

The one for the spaceship victory was pretty nice, I thought. But there wasn’t one for the cultural victory. All I got was just a message box saying I had achieved a cultural victory, and that was it.

How stunningly anticlimactic.

I haven’t won a game yet with other victory conditions, so I have no idea if I’m set up to be disappointed in other areas yet.

Look Rome, you’ve got a temple. You’ve got a colesium. You’ve got a library, bank, cathedral, riflemen and knights. You’ve got wine and furs. You’ve got a fucking Shakespear’s Theatre goddamit! Stop with the rioting.

You’ve burned down your temple? Well, fuck you, you stupid malcontents! And I’m not spending any more on entertainment-- I’ve got a rocket ship to build.

If I didn’t need the sheilds I’d hand you over to the Aztecs. Roman fuckwads.

The patch is on the way.

BTW, thanks for all you Americans for being the extra step of playtesting. I didn’t have to wait a month to get a patch. I had to wait a week.

Flood Plains, anyone? And those deserts will have treats like Saltpeter and Oil in them, of course.

And you know they’re very special, considering how eager the AI is to plop their cities there.

You can’t expect anything less from the Green Menace.

Ah, the love-hate relationships people undergo with strategy games.

I’m one to talk, Conquest: Frontier Wars is likely to significantly lower my semester average :frowning:
Anyway…

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*Originally posted by John Corrado *
**the AI moves units around randomly “on patrol”, which takes five or more minutes given the number of pieces)…

There are a lot of options to disable the unit animations. I even disabled animations of my own units after the first couple of games. Now they all zip around on crack.

#21. Tundra?! Tundra?! What about the fucking jungles!! Sure, tundra truly sucks, and sure, jungles can be improved, but goddamnit, those fucking jungles stretch on for-FUCKING-ever, and I only have one slow-ass-mother-fucking worker!! Ctrl-Shift-Motherfucking Q.

#22. Um, you morons ever going to attack me?! I got all the resources I need, I’m well on my way to a spaceship or cultural victory, so I ain’t going to attack you. But I’m getting really freakin bored ova heah!!

#23. It’s a big lie - leaders do not exist.

Sua

#24. Could you possibly make flood plains more difficult to distinguish from deserts?

Sua

#25: I hate the fact that automated workers can’t be distinguished. And they just plant mines everywhere! Very sucky!

#26: I never remember to go back to cities in civil disorder when I’m engrossed on global warfare, I need some prompts!

And above all:

#27: AIR UNITS CAN NEVER KILL GROUND UNITS? Why oh why? So very stupid.

I like to play conquer the world and right now it just isn’t enjoyable without some serious patching. Nice rant!

  1. Why the hell is there no iron anywhere on my fucking continent?

  2. Must you constantly go and stand directly on my train tracks, slowing down my units, Babylonian guys? I thought we had a mutual protection pact.

  3. No other problems. All I’d like to say is that playing as Prime Minister Svend of the Canadians is a lot of fun. :smiley:

I only got a leader after destroying the last capital of a civilization. I killed two civs after that and didn’t get another leader. Id rather have the three units that make up an army seperate though. Its great for hurrying a forbidden palace in a remote region and suddenly having a new corruption free part of the map.

#31) Alpha centauri was much better

#32) Playing on a huge map of the earth is the neatest, but later on the turns take like 5 minutes to process.

#33: I’m Rome. Why the fliping fuck am I in South America? If I’m playing the real world map, I want start in the right fucking place!

#34: NOOO! TWO FUCKING TURNS! I’ve been building that wonder for 78 mothersucking turns, and you steal it from me two turns before it’s done? Die, die a thousand times die!

#35: “My lord, by switching from Leonardo’s Renaissance Lavatory to Walls, we will waste fifty-eight bajillion shields? Do you want to cancel this action, or bend over and take it in the ass?”

#36: Reading this thread makes me want to play the game.

Uh, green? I thought the Zulus were a bit darker than that, unless of course you have really crappy graphics.

:smiley:
^
He’s the green menace!

#37: There’s no multiplayer.

Yeah, it’s been said. But it deserves to be mentioned twice, goddammit. I wanna start up an SDMB Civ 3 SmackDown Championship and kick the holy bejeezus out of matt_mcl, John Corrado, and Biggirl just because.

:eek: What did I do??!

Well, I know what I am going to be looking for in the Games section over the next several months…a patched Civ 3. Clearly, this is something that I can obsess and tear my hair out over for MONTHS.

You know, I am truly the luckiest man in the world. Why is that? Because I’ve been busting my fawking ass doing contract work, commuting to fawking MARS every fawking day. We are almost ready to ship this mutherfawker out of here. Just a few more 14 hour days left.

Wait, I was telling you why I was so lucky. Oh yeah. Well, next week I’m going to be unemployed again and with this economy it looks like it could last for months and months and months before I get another job. But for those months, at least before the bank repossesses the house, I’ll get to play Civ3 all day every day. And I’ll be playing with the patch from day one. Thanks for doing all that beta testing for me. Suckahs. My Zulus warriors are getting impatient…