Recommend a breast pump

Do I really need to say TMI?

So I have a four day old daughter… (thanks, don’t applaud, I just did what comes natural :wink: )

Suffice it to say, we’re attempting to breastfeed, and my wife’s nipples are hurting like hell… we’re off in roughly six hours for the first visit to the pediatrician.

On the way home, we’ll stop off at Wal*Mart and/or ToysRus to get a breast pump and bottles… (thus far feedings have been strictly from the nipple or formula via syringe).
We’d greatly appreciate any advice we can get on this…

We’re both frankly pretty ignorant on the matter at this point…

Motorized? Do they even make motorized? Types, features, flaws, etc…

The two stores named above are pretty much our only options in this small town, so even known brand names are welcome.

Or should we just get the most expensive one?

Too technical?

OK, just one photo of Katie.

:smiley:

How often will your wife be pumping? Several times per day? Once in a while so that someone else can give a bottle while she goes out? The type of pump you look for will depend on this.

I used the Medela Pump In Style. Electric, plus I got the car adapter (yes, first kid I was working a job doing all site visits and had to pump in my car) and a battery pack just in case. It lasted me through 2 kids, pumping for about a year each one.

Does the hospital where she delivered rent them? Does your health insurance subsidize them? These are good things to find out as well.

Congrats on your beautiful girl!

Too impatient! C’mon, it’s Saturday morning :wink:

Breastfeeding is painful until the nipples get used to it. Get your wife some lanolin she can apply topically (and it’s okay for the littlun to suck up some straight lanolin). Using a pump will be no less painful.

As for manufacturers, Medela makes good electric pumps, as does Avent, but your wife is probably better off breastfeeding for a few weeks before she starts pumping. She’s gone through enough and doesn’t need to add pumping and storing milk to her schedule just yet.

Avent worked pretty well for China Wife. It fits all the bottles too. Part of the complete Avent from newborn to sippy cups

With son #1 I had a medical grade Medela provided by Kaiser for six months at home. It was great. With son #2 Kaiser wasn’t payin’ so I had to get my own. I could rent one, for $45 per month through medical supply companies (they deliver!) or buy one. I should’a rented. Spent about $300 on the Medela Pump-in-Style (top of the line) but due to PPD I wasn’t as interested in using it as I was with #1. Ended up donating it after about six months since you can’t return them to the stores unless defective.

If I were you, I’d suggest a rental to your wife. Unless you KNOW that it’s going to work well and will be used for a year.

Just wait for the huge laughs you’ll get when you see her nipples extended about 2 inches into the pump. It always had my hub rollin’. Looks kinda icky to me, but didn’t hurt much.

Good luck, let me know if you need anything, 'kay? Offer still stands.

The short answer: it depends.

The longer answer. If she’s just going to pump once in a while (like once a day or less) to get enough milk out for a babysitter or a bottle from Daddy, then she will be fine with a handpump. I really like my Medela Harmony. It’s quiet (Gerber’s crappy thing is very squeaky!), it’s comfortable, and the handle isn’t fixed - it can rotate around the bottle, which is easier on your hand and wrist. Less carpal tunnel. It also has the option of different “trumpets” if your wife’s nipples are an unusual size, though the bigger or smaller trumpets need to be bought separately. The cons: no variable suction. The variable suction of the Gerber was the only thing I like about the nasty thing.

If she’s going to be pumping several times (2-4) a day, every day (like if she’s going back to work while still breastfeeding), she’s going to want a dual (two collection containers, so both breasts can be emptied at one time), electric pump. Medela’s Pump in Style and Avent’s Isis are probably neck-and-neck in this category. I didn’t use either of these, so I have no specific advice here.

If, for some reason, she needs to pump exclusively - that is, no more nursing directly, but she still wants to give the baby breastmilk - then she needs to get a hospital grade pump. These are very expensive to buy ($1000+), but can be rented from most hospitals, some pharmacies, and the above mentioned hospital supply rentals. I used Medela’s Symphony, and liked it a lot.

Now, the caveats. Every woman’s breasts are different. Some women can pump like dairy cows, and some get nothing at all. Some women find they can get milk from one type of pump, but not another. So there’s some amount of trial and error that may need to happen. The bad news is that you can’t return breast pump equipment if it doesn’t work out. However, your local La Leche League may have a collection of breast pumps she can try to see what works for her.

But I’d also recommend letting her and the baby work out nursing before y’all worry about pumping. Pumping can be boring and stressful, and don’t add it into the mix before you need to.

My baby was born in October and I rented the same type of pump that I used in the hospital - it’s an Ameda Elite. It’s $60 / month and to buy the pump kit is an additional $35 I think.

I own a manual pump but have never used it, because I refuse to give up this lovely, mint-green, dual, electric marvel of efficiency.

I pump 3-4 times per day and I love the freedom it gives me - my daughter will only nurse at home, so having bottles of expressed milk allow us to go out and about and keep her little tummy full.

We had no problem with nipple confusion or anything by the way (we use plain old Gerber bottles & nipples), BUT she took bottles first because she was a preemie and then learned to nurse when she was about 4 weeks old.

Good luck and congrats!

Just wanted to add - I don’t find pumping painful, although the first 30 seconds or so can be a little uncomfortable - it’s a strange sensation.

Breastfeeding shouldn’t be painful if the baby has a good latch. The letdown can be pretty brutal at first, but I have never had a problem with my nipples.

Just a personal pet peeve of mine, I hate it when people imply that breastfeeding is automatically going to be painful, because everyone has a different experience.

I used a hospital grade pump and it was always painful. Getting proper sized cups for the pump was helpful - I needed to supersize the cups. My hospital grade was covered by insurance.

Jeez … I need to learn to gather my thoughts before I “submit reply”.

Probably you and your wife have already heard this - pumping doesn’t always produce the same amount of milk as nursing. So tell her not to get discouraged if it seems like she isn’t pumping very much. As whynot said, everyone responds differently to pumping.

I have my best success when I do the following:
a) drink tons of water - probably about 72 oz a day - maybe more
b) eat protein throughout the day - eggs for brekkie, cheese with lunch, and a healthy serving of meat with dinner
c) pump at the same times every day - 7 pm, 10 pm, 2 am, 6 am

I also take an herbal supplement called fenugreek which helps, and I’ve read blessed thistle works wonders too.

Just some info to file away in your (probably) sleep-deprived brain. :slight_smile:

Usually nipple pain is caused by improper latch on. Then it gets worse because her pain can cause her to dread feedings, and in the meantime baby is not getting as much to eat as she could (because bad latching means less milk) and so is hungrier, thus working harder to get mre while not latched on properly which hurts even more. When the cycle repeats, often the result is that nursing is ended.

Which is by no means an irreperable tragedy. But it is a real shame to stop nursing for something that is usually easily remedied – and an even bigger shame to have to have that much pain if you don’t have to.

Normal discomfort starts about the second day and gets better around the fifth day, and has to do with how much milk is being produced. But while everybody’s pain threshold is different, it should not hurt like hell. If you are counting the hours to a doctor’s appointment I figure your wife is dealing with more than the usual discomfort.

Since so many people did not grow up around nursing babies and don’t have practical family support because of that, I will say something very simple: Visualize a circle around your wife’s nipple, about an inch in radius, not diameter, from the middle of her nipple. At least that much of her breast should be in that baby’s mouth when she is nursing. A lot, that is. More than you think ought to be possible with such a small mouth. If it feels to your wife like a pinch or sharp bite when baby nurses, baby is not latched on properly. Breastfeeding.com has got video online so you can see what it is supposed to look like.

Nursing is a dance with two partners, and bad latch can be either a problem from mom’s side (engorgement or flat/inverted nipples or what have you) or from baby’s side (tongue tie or clenching for example) that causes latch issues. It’s a shame people have to find out by trial and error (mostly error) that it isn’t always easy to follow the steps of this dance especially in the beginning. It is learned behavior, it isn’t innate. If the latch turns out not to be a simple problem to solve, and it doesn’t get better by tomorrow, call either your local hospital and get an appointment with a lactation specialist; or call La Leche League, they have somebody to confer with everywhere.

My own experience is that pediatricians are less than helpful and verge strongly on entirely ignorant in matters involving nursing; but it is my hope that this is not universally true.

Congratulations. And good on you for having the good sense to ask.

For pumps, this early in the game I would rent a hospital grade. Especially with a first baby, you don’t know yet how well pumping will work out or how much you will need it.

Thanks everybody for the great advice.

The problem is indeed that baby isn’t latching on correctly… she’s only getting the very tip of the nipple. One side is black and blue - the other side is much better though.

We ended up going with an adjustable suction electric one, and it works great - my wife is very happy with it. It’s an Even-Flo model from Wal*Mart, $38.

She’s going to continue breastfeeding, too - she won’t give up - but this is making things a lot easier for the time being.

Thanks again.

Do me a personal favor and don’t allow anyone, including yourself, to question your wife on if the baby is getting enough to eat. She’s already worrying about it herself. This question posed by well-meaning inlaws and even husbands is wrought with tension for the trying-to-nurse new mom. It made me really insecure and angry with relatives, which isn’t positive for the new mom.

When people questioned my nursing, it made me feel as though they were telling me to stop and just give the baby a damn bottle. Upset me highly when I was trying desperately to make it work.

Thanks RSSchen, I wouldn’t do that.

We’ve already had more advice on that front than we can handle from lactation specialists, nurses, etc…

I’m confident Katie’s getting all she needs. Last night, thanks to the pump (my wife loves it) I got to be in charge of feeding for six hours or so… she drank all we had prepared and then wanted more - wouldn’t stop crying. So I finally had to wake up wifey but it was still the best sleep she’s had since Katie was born.

As, so you have a whippersnapper with a side preference. Did someone show you guys the football hold? That can be very useful for some babies who don’t get enough of the nipple into their mouths because they only like to feed on their right sides (or left sides). Tasteful (hah!) nursing sketches here.

Don’t let that baby get away with only feeding on one side! Your wife will end up with lopsided breasts.

Ah, on preview I see you’ve seen a lactation specialist, so of course you know this already. Oh, well. Then I’ll just use this post to say something very important I forgot before:

What a cutie!!!

Heh :wink:

Almost everyone my mother-in-law the La Leche League instructor teaches encounters some pain or discomfort initially. Even if it’s just a little chafing. Or blood blisters.

But, those women who persist will find everything gets much, much better, and quickly too.

I had a lot of trouble at first, getting my baby to latch on. I think part of the problem is that, when you are a new mom & don’t have any experience, it is just very awkward to hold the baby and try to latch them on at the same time. After a while, I became a lot more adept and comfortable, and the problem worked itself out.

So, good luck and CONGRATULATIONS! :slight_smile:

Yeah, but I DIDN’T have pain and I am a big wimp with super-sensitive nipples. So all I am saying is that there is no guarantee that breastfeeding will hurt or be uncomfortable.