Recommend a season of Buffy - or should I go with Firefly?

I am a little afraid to advance this opinion, but:

I disagree with the prevailing sentiment in this thread.

Gulp.

Here’s the thing: you’re going to hear a lot of people say that Firefly was a better series than Buffy, and I’m going to take issue with this. Firefly was a tremendously produced package of fewer than 20 episodes. Through no fault of the creators, it died before it had to even really be a series. It didn’t last long enough to produce inevitable stinker episodes, which it would have. It didn’t last long enough to hook up Mal with Inara and Simon with Kaylee, and then deal with the dramatic consequences of those plot developments in an interesting and original way (or not). Most importantly, it didn’t ever have to go anywhere. It didn’t ever have to give answer to any of the questions it so artfully raised, resolve any of the dilemmas it introduced. It was good, yes, but it was incomplete, so it will always be remembered as a little better than it actually was. Greatness is about the whole story, and the whole story of Firefly is still untold. Can I say for certain that the resolutions to all the plot lines would have unfolded as artfully as the introductions to them did? I can’t. Ask Stephen King: it’s a lot easier to create and sustain a great story with interesting characters than to bring those characters somewhere and make them do something interesting.

I mean, think about it: if Lost had gone off the air after 17 episodes, people would have been calling it the greatest television show of all time. Eventually, though, all of that character development and exposition had to go somewhere, and then the cracks started to show; now the reception is more mixed.

That’s the thing about Buffy. It lasted seven seasons. It told a complete story (and I much prefer the ending of Season 7, by the way, to a series that ended with Season 5; “the hero dies to save the world” is so cliche as to be painful, and that was never the way of that show). 150 hours of TV. Some of them were dreadful. But on balance, that series did things that were remarkable. How often do you hear the old trope that if you set up romantic tension between your leads, and then hook them up, you’ll lose the momentum of your show? How many other series can you name where the lead couple finally falling into bed actually made the show a hundred times more interesting? How well were each of those characters drawn by the end, with how many shades? Rev. Book could have been as well-developed a character as Giles, but he never got a chance to be and so he wasn’t.

Buffy all the way. I’d do Season 3, because Season 3 had the Mayor, who ruled, and Season 3 had Faith (mmmm… Faith), and Season 3 had Jonathan’s speech at the Prom. I wouldn’t argue with 2 or 4, though.

They got me too about half a year ago. Watching it made me angry at myself for not having been aware of it when it was originally on so I could have been one more letter writer to try to keep it on. It really is the kind of thing you see and then think, “I didn’t know television could actually be this good.”

That’s the main reason so many are still angry that Firefly was cancelled far too early. With the Whedon crew’s gift for character development, we can only wonder what a few seasons of Firefly would have given us. It was a pretty promising beginning, with some fascinating characters. But it died far too young.

I suggested the OP buy Firefly for her husband. But I also suggested she buy all of Buffy for herself, rather than pick just one season.

As a latecomer to the fandom, I leapt at my chance to by the Chosen collection & still watch it. (And all of Angel, too.)

The OP had to pick just one. I say, get them all–eventually.

If you haven’t bought anything yet, I’d like to point out that Best Buy has all 7 seasons of Buffy on sale for $20 each and same price for Firefly. You might want to get BOTH for the same price as 1 season of either.
Best Buy link to Buffy

If you are going to go to a Best Buy store though, print out the web page and bring the print out with you. Best Buy has 2 versions of its web site, with different prices on the one they will pull up in the store. Link

Since you specifically asked about Buffy, my vote is for either Season 3 or Season 2, with 3 in the lead. Doppelgängland alone is worth $20.

But why not get both?

I don’t necessarily think this is the case, though. Both Buffy and Firefly were brilliant shows - I would probably say Buffy was a better show simply for longevity’s sake. I think most people in this thread were just saying that buying one season of Buffy will easily lead to buying another and another and another - so if the OP was looking for something to get for the SO that wasn’t going to require more and more DVDs in the future (well, six more seasons), Firefly was the way to go.

I own Firefly (I’ve only owned it for about a month and a half, though). I don’t own Buffy because I know if I buy one season, I’m going to want all of them, and I’m quite impatient about my DVDs - I would want the next season right after I finished watching the previous one. Whereas with Firefly, as heartbreaking as it is, I’m done after 14 episodes (and the movie - although I’ve been putting off buying that because as a new Firefly fan, I don’t want it to be completely over.).

storyteller0910, you raise a valid point. If you buy Firefly, you’re not going to get a complete work of art. Themes will be left unresolved, and questions will be left unanswered. But on the other hand, if you buy a single season of Buffy, the same will be true. One could, of course, buy all seven seasons of Buffy, and get that complete work, but that would cost seven times as much, and it doesn’t look like the OP is really in the market to buy that much right now.

I’d argue that one could buy the first 5 seasons of Buffy and have a very entertaining and sated experience.

And I’m going to offer an alternative to buying: Netflix. That is how I am catching up on a lot of series. Series I’ve rented for the economical sum of $7.99/month include: “24” “Arrested Development” “Veronica Mars” and (currently) “The Office (BBC).” Once the last season of “The Sopranos” is out on DVD, I’m going to have a mafia marathon.

Of course, Blockbuster Online might be a better alternative because then you could go to the store to get the next disc. Waiting for 3 days in between episodes of “24” s1 was torture. I don’t know how y’all watch it in real time.

This is why you get three movies at a time. By the time you have gone through three disks, the first has already gone back to Netflix and the fourth one has arrived.

This is actually what I did, I bought Firefly and Season 4 (he didn’t get hooked on Buffy until about Season 5, so he doesn’t know how sucky Riley is).

If you want it to end with a bang, you may be in luck. Next week, Serenity is being shown on the big screen, as a global charity event, Can’t Stop the Serenity. Proceeds go to Equality Now (Joss Whedon’s favorite charity) and here in Arizona, a couple of similar local organizations,

Why yes, I’m a Browncoat. What makes you ask?

Firefly is quality writing. Buffy is cheesy schlock.

I’m too cheap to get a plan where you can rent 3 movies at a time. :slight_smile:

I more or less agree with storyteller0910.

But more than that, I watched all seven seasons of Buffy and eagerly awaited most new episodes. I’ve seen most episodes several times, and I own all the DVDs. There were some really bad episodes (mostly in season 4 which see-sawed between meh and brilliance), but there’s always going to be when there are more than 100 of them. As a long-running series, it did a damn good job building a story-arch and maintaining it.

As for Firefly… I’ve seen most episodes once or twice - twice only being because I gave the show a second chance after people proclaimed it the best thing since sliced bread. That’s enough for me. Maybe it would have hit its stride, but it started off fairly weakly and didn’t improve very much before it was axed. Unlike its loyal fans, by the end of its short run I didn’t care about the unanswered questions.

I’d only recommend Firefly if you really really liked Serenity.

I stand in awe of this analysis.

Awe - Archaic

  1. The power to inspire dread.
  2. Dread.
    I concur. :smiley:

Firefly never grabbed me. There were some truly awesome episodes - like the train robbery - but also some really sucky ones - like ‘I want to buy some mud’ - and I never finished the series. Serenity the movie was awesome, though.