I like how we are all cooperating together on this thread. I think we can agree on this unanimously by all members. If redundancy were funny, I’d have fallen down laughing by now. Based on past experiences, I can see this happening. It still might be the end result.
I’d like to drown people that say that in the Rio Grande river.
ETA: I actually grew up saying this…perhaps because Dad worked for the Rio Grande Railroad.
There’s tons of those, actually. “-kill” names for rivers and creeks are all over the Northeast US where-ever the Dutch put down roots, and every single one of them now has “River” or “Creek” as an appendage in their current names.
Wallkill River, Kaaterskill (sp?) Creek, Fishkill Creek, to name a few I know of.
Also as long as I’m here spamming all over the thread – that Wikipedia article on Torpenhow Hill is sort of a buzz kill. Torpenhow (the town) does exist; and if there is a hill nearby named after the town – well, the derivation might not be as popularly imagined, but that wouldn’t alter the entertainment value of the redundancy. Secondly, the article is stretching the point when it argues that Tor, Pen and How don’t all mean exactly the same thing, so maybe the town was named all at once in one language as “head-peak-hill” or whatever …