Reexamining Star Wars 50 years later

I watched the trilogy at an age where there was zero chance of me retaining anything about them, but I did manage to catch them all much later on VHS. These were the last ever printings of the non-enhanced theatrical films, which George Lucas got right the first time, and I refuse to ever watch his Enhancimicated Edition manglings and for that reason can never watch these movies again. So I don’t really have much to say other than “nice popcorn flicks, 8/10 across the board, yes, even that one”.

I will like to say that I never got all the big controversies, all of which were justifiable or at least understandable. So I’m just going to say my piece here, and you can all dissect or ignore them as you will. Okay, here goes.

The reason we start in the “middle” of the story is that the “beginning” would’ve been boring. Remember, this was an era where entertainment was limited (especially outside of big cities) and movies were only available in theaters for limited runs. Lucas had one shot at this and was not going to waste everyone’s time with trade disputes or Senate debates or philosophical musings. It’s Star Wars, so let’s get straight to the ding-dang warring.

R2-D2 and C3PO are standard droid models (astromech and protocol, respectively), and it would’ve been many years since Obi-Wan had last seen them, so it’s perfectly plausible that he would have forgotten about them, or at least not recognized them right away. Plus, it is completely true that he never owned a droid. :grin:

Assuming that Han wasn’t just yanking Obi-Wan’s chain about the Kessel Run, the simplest explanation is that the more direct path a ship takes, the more dangers it runs into, so being able to take much shorter run without destroying the ship is a mark of skill. This exact scenario shows up in one of the Lone Wolf books (Voyage of the Moonstone).

Greedo fell victim to an old movie cliche, the Fallacy of the Talking Killer (shout out to Roger Ebert, who didn’t get nearly enough credit in life). He was going to kill Han. He had every intention of doing so. He was never going to spare his life. That he never fired was a mark of hopeless incompetence (and, in contrast, Han’s coolness and control of the situation), not a willingness to negotiate. All of this was incredibly obvious. There was no need to “justify” Han’s actions by butchering the scene to make it appear that Greedo shot first, which does nothing but make Han look like a hopeless incompetent who just happened to be incredibly lucky. (Also, it makes zero sense that Jabba would declare Han out of chances, then give him One Last Chance outside the cantina, which is another reason I’m not touching the Deluxibimmafraggatory-whatever Editions. :angry:)

Leia kissed Luke to get Han’s goat (and it was quick and perfunctory, with zero romance; I watched it numerous times, I know this, don’t @ me) not knowing that they were related. In fact, even Lucas himself did not know at the time that they would be related. The reason he decided later on that they were related was that he did not anticipate Han developing a romance with Leia (and ultimately marrying her), which meant that the hero would not get the girl in the end, and making them family was the only justification he could think of for that.

Vader claimed to be Luke’s father, 1. with no evidence, and 2. directly contradicting what Obi-Wan…who had no established motivation for deceiving Luke…said in the previous movie. It was painfully obvious that Lucas wanted to end the movie on a real bombshell but wasn’t certain if he wanted to follow through on it. Following trends, gauging audience reaction, and making it up as he goes along. All part of moviemaking.

Boba Fett caught fire because his action figure was part of a special promotion and not available in stores, and that made the character seem special. There were never plans to give a generic bounty hunter a big role in the movies (and personally I think his inclusion in the Clone Wars was a bit heavy-handed).

It’s not a “Mind Trick”. No Jedi calls it a Mind Trick. Obi-Wan never used the term; all he said was that the Force can have a powerful effect on the weak-minded. It was only used by Jabba The Hutt (and later Watto), so it’s most likely a Tatooine-specific slang term. At least one game calls the power as Force Persuasion, but I don’t know if that’s canon.

The Ewoks made perfect sense. Aside from the marketability factor (and I realize I’m veering into subjectivity here), what made Chewbacca cool was that idea that he was not like other Wookies. There’s no way a big hairy brute who could only speak primitive sounds should be able to communicate with people, fly a ship, handle ranged weapons, or pilot an AT-ST, he could, and that’s what made him cool. If you show an entire Wookie community on the moon, either they’re also miraculous linguists, expert pilots, trained gunners etc., taking away everything that made Chewbacca special, or they really are just a bunch of noisy sasquatches and they’re neither interesting nor sympathetic. Besides, small and primitive but full of lethal cunning fits better with the Vietcong-against-the-American-military theme Lucas was going for.

Of course Force Lightning takes forever. That’s the point! The Emperor was furious at Luke’s defiance and wanted to make his end as painful as possible. If he wanted to end him quickly, a Force choke or simply throwing him down that shaft would’ve done the job nicely.

" Yes, I’m looking for your basic Ringo Starr moptop cut. But watch the ears. Get it??? Watch the EARS ??? BWAAAAAHAHHAAHHAAAAAAA. "

—Mr. Nimoy grits teeth—

" Back to AT-ATs: how do they get them on the ground? "

They beamed them down, silly.

—Quietly letting self out side door.

[Hardison, (Leverage) rolls eyes] Star WARS, Parker, not Star TREK.[Hardison]

Lt. Commander Jadzia Dax: I had no idea.
Sisko: What?
Dax: He’s so much more handsome in person. Those eyes!
Sisko: Kirk had quite the reputation as a ladies’ man.
Dax: Not him. Spock.

There’s an episode of the old Thunderbird series with precisely that kind of fighting machine. It was hailed as the latest development in combatting 1960s bush-war insurgencies.

I’m really thrown by the idea that being big and hairy means you can’t also be technically skilled. I mean, have you never seen an auto mechanic in the real world? And Chewbacca doesn’t communicate in “primitive sounds.” Look at any interaction he has with Han in the OT. He’s clearly able to communicate very sophisticated, often highly technical ideas, he’s just doing it in a language that’s not English Basic.

They did end up 86ing the Wookie idea for RotJ in favor of Ewoks, because by that time they’d established that Wookies were not a low-tech, primitive species, and that’s not the direction they wanted to go with the story on Endor. The idea that Chewbacca was meant to be some special polymath Wookie genius is just bizarre, though. He’s a standard member of an advanced, star-faring species, same as literally every other major character in the cast.

I just found out that the Star Wars slide show that appeared at Worldcon 50 years ago, about 9 months before the movie was released, will be shown at the L.A. Worldcon in Anaheim this year. If I can get in to see it I give a report.

And that’s what I revert to any time I watch the movies.

Hey, I have plenty of criticisms …

(and I really should have written/directed Eps. 6, 1,2,3 and 8)

…but whenever I watch my favorite parts
(Yes, I do that: "I’m in the mood for… the fight with Darth Maul; or the cantina scene; or Rey being introdued as scavenging a broken Star Destroyer in the desert; or Poe sassing Bill Weasley - sorry, looked him up: Gen. Hux, or Luke fighting remotely), I turn off my adult “Film Crit” brain, and just enjoy that world.

And Wookies are just as diverse as any other sapient species. Chewbacca being a skilled mechanic and adventurer no more implies that all Wookies are skilled mechanics and adventurers than Han implies that all humans are skilled pilots.

Agreed completely about Chewie. Although I have also heard the idea that Wookies were ever meant to be used in ROTJ is a myth. But Lucas changes his stories in the various interviews over the years a lot, so I don’t know.

As I had heard it: at one point in the development of Star Wars, Lucas had considered doing a ground battle on Yavin IV, at the same time as the space battle on the Death Star, pitting low-tech Wookiees against high-tech Stormtroopers.

He didn’t have the budget for it, so it was never shot, but when RotJ was developed, he revisited the idea, but, as noted above, he decided that, based on what he had established about Chewbacca by that point, it no longer made as much sense for it to be Wookiees, so he created the Ewoks.

This is an important thing to remember with discussions like this. Lucas is not a reliable source of information on his own history and intentions with regard to Start Wars.

The first movie was the distilled perfection of his directionless, confusing, and boring original story treatment. It took a LOT of bosses, friends, and coworkers telling him, “No, George…” to get to the final product, but don’t expect him to admit that.

Note that even the name Ewok is reversing the syllables of Wookiee.

I don’t have any prejudice against Wookies (I mean, seriously? :confused:). I just reject the idea that they were absolutely needed in ROTJ and the decision for a more kid-friendly race was this humungous mistake that wrecked the movie. A confrontation between Wookies and the Empire would’ve been (in all likelihood) a conventional, straight up steel-against-steel battle, and while that would’ve worked okay, it wouldn’t have had the same impact as a resourceful little band of munchkins defying the odds.

And I always thought Chewbacca was remarkable. I mean, Han had to spell it out for Rey that Chewie could perfectly understand a language he didn’t speak a word of, so this couldn’t have been a common thing.

It’s hard to say; there are very few significant appearances of Wookiees other than Chewie in canon sources (mostly the films and TV series). Also, Rey spent most of her life up until The Force Awakens on a backwater planet; she might not have ever encountered a Wookiee until she met Chewie.

There are a few scenes of Wookiee warriors on Kashyyyk in Revenge of the Sith, but I can’t remember how much on-screen conversation they had with speakers of “Basic” (the standard language in the galaxy). In The Book of Boba Fett, and in the Marvel comic books, there’s a Wookiee bounty hunter named Krrsantan, who does clearly understand Basic.

Non-humans are pretty rarely shown speaking English in the OT. They almost always speak their own language, which the humans appear to understand well enough, and vice versa. Uncle Owen with the Jawas, Han with Greedo, Luke with Jabba. Really, the only exception I can think of off the top of my head is Admiral Ackbar.

In the runup to the release of Star Wars, I was underwhelmed.**

The original trailer (which I saw in February, 1977, while attending a showing of Network) doesn’t have any John Williams music, the “Star Wars” logo is in a different type, and doesn’t have that “yellow piping” color to it. The outdoor scenes are overcast, and they actually manage to make it sem chaotic and arguably uninteresting. I wasn’t put in mind of innovative effects, but of stuff I’d seen plenty of times in bad sci-fi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHk5kCIiGoM

The novelization, which came out well before the movie, had a confusing cover. Is hat a Farth Vader-shaped building looming over images of Luke, R2D2, C3PO, and Chewbacca that somehow didn’t look ight? (especially that weird-looking Chewie)

https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/b/b4/STRWRSFRMT1976.jpg

The Star Wars comic book that Marvel released immediately before the movie wasn’t much better. For no good reason Darth Vader’s belmet was green, with yellow eyes that had Kirby Dots dancing in them

https://www.comics.org/issue/31248/cover/4/

The cast looks kinda weird, again, especially Princess Leia.

It wasn’t a compelling idea that was being pushed. It was helped along on the day of the film’s release when they put ads on the bottom of the front page of the Boston Globe – something I’d never seen before. We still weren’t impressed. Two of us went to the premiere at the charles Street Cinema, where they refused to honor our passes – special show and all, so we left angrily. Later on we figured we might as well pay, but by that time we couldn’t get in.

I went back the next day in the afternoon and sat through the movie twice. I was amazed – the film was infinitely better than I had been lead to believe. I didn’t get that feeling again until I saw The Terminator seven years later. Lucas simply dove in unashamedly and embraced all the science fiction images and tropes that other Hollywood filmmakers had been too timid to use, afraid of alienating moviegoers with stuff that was “too weird”. It was the first time I saw that science fiction standard, The Spaceport Bar, finally shown on screen, crawling with weird and very non-human aliens. Weapons like Light Sabers tossed out without a word of explanation – the audience could take it or leave it . (The Light Saber was the ideal weapon for science fantasy, combining the swordplay of Burroughs’ Barsoom novels and Alex Raymond’s Flash Gordon series with the high tech that characterized the rest of the film design. And who cared if it didn’t make any logical sense? The closest thing to it I’d encountered in science fiction literature was Larry Niven’s Variable Sword.)

A revolution in movies because Lucas was bold enough to take a chance on the public actually liking the unusual universe he threw at them. Everybody else immediately leaped on that bandwagon, with varying results.

Despite the bumps and errors in the initial marketing, I’m not sure that you could have adequately prepared people for what was coming.

Oh, one other BIG thing about finally seeing Star Wars for the first time. Even before I saw the first scene, or the opening crawl, or even the words “STAR WARS” on the screen, I knew it was going to be GOOD.

I knew this because , instead of the abbreviated 20th Century Fox fanfare that they played over the initial company logo, Lucas had taken the trouble to use the entire unedited, un-truncated fanfare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHsnpo8QMro

For those of you too young to know, in virtually all 20th Century Fox pictures, the fanfare stopped about where the above screen changes to “A Lucasfilm Limited Production”. The only time it seemed that I ever heard the entire fanfare was when they were running old 20th Century Fox movies on TV with the “filmed in CinemaScope” logo. Now, of course, you hear it all the time, but bck then it was a rare treat to hear the whole thing.

That told me that Lucas was a filmmaker who appreciated the fine details and took extra time and pains to get everything right. And I knew then that it was going to be a helluva movie.

I was right.

That’s Ralph McQuarrie. It may not be perfectly accurate to the screen version, it looks great. They could have used this early McQuarrie concept painting:

I’d love to an alternate universe Star Wars with that cast of characters. (Not as much as seeing Timothy Zahn’s sequels on screen, but what can you do?)

The first time I ever heard about the movie was when I returned to Minneapolis in June 1977, after spending 14 months in the UK. I went to knock up some friends I’d left behind even earlier, and was met at the door by their roomie, Al. When I asked if Mike and Deb were home, he said “No, they’re out watching Star Wars.” I had no idea what the hell he was talking about, and said I’d come back a day or two later.

After a couple of weeks, I was taken to see the movie at a real, old-fashioned thee-ay-ture with a balcony and enormous screen. I took the middle seat in the front row of the balcony, and was blown away when the Imperial destroyer came on the screen in pursuit of Princess Leia’s schooner. I spent the next hour and a half completely immersed in the story, and we all stayed for the second showing (which you could do in those days without being chased out by an usher). I gotta admit I was moved almost to tears by the scene where Luke watches Tatooine’s binary sun set below the horizon.

I was a HUGE Star Wars fan for the first two movies, but began to lose interest after Lucas started to change things. I hated the ending of the third movie, the idea of Leia and Luke being siblings fathered by Vader, and the thought that personification of evil could repent and be redeemed.

I think I saw the fourth movie at a cineplex in Moscow, and I only remember being completely underwhelmed. People were walking out long before the story ended, and I was tempted to join them. I haven’t seen any of the later films in the franchise and have no desire to, especially after seeing the way Lucas tinkered with the first one.