One clear difference is that Threepio has initiative. An LLM won’t do anything except in response to a prompt, but Threepio seems to have their own goals and works on their own to achieve them, even if no non-droid is interacting with them.
So does that make Otto the Autopilot in Airplane! sentient when he reinflated and flew the plane off at the end?
IMO, the greatest flaw in the sequel trilogy is that Disney clearly had no master plan going in and hired three different directors with three wildly different visions for where they wanted the story to go - then the manufactured chud backlash to The Last Jedi (which is IMO the single best Star Wars movie after the first one) spooked them and they brought Abrams back to make Episode IX “safe”, and the result was an unsatisfying rehash of ROTJ that pleased nobody.
Whenever they get around to making another trilogy, they need a single “showrunner” with a coherent plan, like Lucas was for the first two trilogies.
Worse, from what I understand, Rian Johnson actually asked what the Big Plan was, and was told that there wasn’t one. So he decided on his own in which direction to go. Whereupon Abrams said “No, not like that!”, and promptly undid everything Johnson had done.
Apparently, the script for Treverrow’s Episode IX leaked awhile back. I’m not sure it would have been a great movie, but it sounds a little more interesting than what Abrams came up with.
I’ve been thinking of my version since Return Of The Jedi. Luke and Leia have sex and Leia gets pregnant, and then they find out their siblings. The child becomes The New Hope.
I’ve seen ‘chud’ a couple of times recently. The only ‘chud’ I know is C.H.U.D.: Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers (1984 horror film), so I can’t make sense of the new usage.
Terminally online far-right incel weirdos who spend their time complaining that TV shows/movies/video games are “woke” now because black people exist in them or a female character doesn’t have big boobs.
Trump voters, in other words.
And, in the case of the toxic fanboys who railed against The Last Jedi (and the prequels as a whole):
- Hatred that the protagonist was a female
- Hatred that one of the other primary heroes was a black man
- Hatred that a supporting heroic character was a female who wasn’t skinny or hot
Who wasn’t traditionally hot, I’d say. She still does it for lots of well-adjusted men and ladies.
Too young for me to look at in that way. She was just ‘Rey’, and she looked fine as a character. Then my wife said that she had a big butt. Now I can’t un-see it. I guess an actor’s or actress’s looks matter to some people, but to get mad about it doesn’t make sense to me. (Clarification: I’m talking about people who get mad over characters/actors/actresses; not my wife’s comment.)
I was actually speaking of Rose (played by Kelly Marie Tran). She was savaged by the toxic fanboys on social media because she was “fat” (as well as because she – the actress – is Asian).
I knew you were talking about Rose, so the comment still stands.
Ah. Her too. Maybe she wasn’t ‘traditionally attractive’; but she seemed great as a person.
Actually, I’m a little uncomfortable talking about actress’s looks. Too close to objectification of woman. But I get your point.
Apologies – I had quoted you to put context on @Johnny_L.A 's post in reply to yours, where he talked about Rey.
Yeah. The chuds/fanboys clearly only wanted to see female characters whom they could view as sex objects – and absolutely didn’t want to see them as the protagonist, because that’s a male role, in their tiny minds.
I think Rey was a perfectly fine protagonist.
But I was disappointed that Finn wasn’t a Jedi. It would have been a nice redemption angle, as a former Stormtrooper.
I was seven when Star Wars came out, and was unimpressed by the advertising, which to me looked like it was selling a movie about people in robes standing around in the desert. My opinion changed about five seconds into the movie, which I loved. One of the things I loved about it was that, far from being a shiny future world, this was a beat-up, shabby, knocked-about universe where the spaceships had dents and scrapes, the robots had bad motivators, and to get anywhere you have to go through the bad part of town. Admittedly I hadn’t seen a lot of science fiction film or TV at that age, but what I had seen looked nothing like this.