If God created the universe then He must know physics. If Einstein’s theories are correct then God had to Know about it. So could relativity be in the Bible?
Hebrews 7:3 says: Mechizedek was without father, mother or ancestry.
Most Christians don’t say much about Melchizedek. I have seen Bible reference books that don’t mention him. Those that do are usually quite vague.
Hebrews also says that Enoch did not die.
Genesis chapter 5 has a list of people saying how long they lived until death. The only one we usually hear about is Methusalah who lived the longest. It says, Enoch was no longer here for God took him and Enoch walkd with God.
The common example of Einstein’s relativity is twin brothers. One gets on a space ship and travels near light speed. When he returns the brother on Earth is an old man and the traveler is still young because time, for him, slowed down.
Suppose Enoch hung out with God for a DAY and 2000 YEARS went by on Earth. God sends Enoch back and he tells everyone his name is Melchizedek. Of course no one knows what Enoch looked like. So Melchizedek arrived on Earth as an adult, without father, without mother and without ancestry.
So is this concievable, plausable or a crazy Timgarism?:smack:
What does walking with God have to do with physics? Are you suggesting that God moves at a sizeable fraction of c when He walks, and that He had to accelerate Enoch to the same speed so Enoch could keep up?
LOL um, Christianity is not THAT complicated. Its what everyone tries to make it become that makes it complicated.
Melchizedek (Melchisedec) (hereinafter known as “Mel”) was a God fearing man and his name meant “King of righteousness” and king of Salem means “King of peace.” There are four main theories 1) Mel was a respected king of that region. Abram was simply showing him the respect he deserved; 2) The name “Mel” may have been a standing title for all of the kings of Salem; 3) Mel was a type of Christ (Heb 7:3). A type is an Old Testament event or teaching that is so closely related to what Christ did that it illustrates a lesson about Christ; 4) Mel was the appearance on earth of the preincarnate Christ in a temporary bodily form.
(information gathered from Strong’s Concordance and my NIV Life Applicaiton Bible)
Where is the reference you site about Mel not having a mother, father, et al?
Hmm…so that seems to support somewhat the 4th theory aforementioned. Interesting. My Bible says that He is said to remain a priest forever because his priesthood has no record of beginning or ending - he was a priest of God in Salem (Jerusalem) long before the nation of Israel and the regular priesthood began.
One line of reasoning I’ve heard is based on what Paul was teaching about the superlative value of Christ’s sacrifice and priesthood compared to the then current Judaic system.
Melchezidek provided a good “type” to Jesus’ “antitype” in that they are both able to function as both king and priest, roles that were seperated under The Law.
According to the Gospels, Jesus could trace lineage all the way back to God, “proving” him to be God’s Son. Melchezidek’s lineage is left open, thus allowing conjecture to indicate he was the “type” of Christ, in that no human could be his father, his Father being God.
Another “type” is that Melchezidek had no beginnig or end that can be pinpointed. Sound familiar?
But, unfortunately, I have no readily available cites. This is all off the top of my head from years of Bible reading. I’ll try to find something to back this up or disprove it, whichever way the evidence points, but it may take some time.
Feel free to improve or disprove any of these points. Really.
I remember talking to a lady long ago who thought spacemen wrote the Bible. She used the various heavenly chariot things, like Elisha (or is it Elijah?) being caught up to heaven, and Ezekiel’s Heavenly Throne vision. You know, the wheels with eyes and the four flying creatures with four faces each…
She was fun to talk with, but it gave me a headache to attempt a reconciliation of Star Trek and Jesus.
The ancient Syriac Peshitta gives a more accurate translation of 7:3. “Whose mother and father are not written in geaneologies.”
The Levitical priesthood was hereditary, but Melchizideks was not. His origin is unknown because it was not relevant to his priesthood. He did have parents, they just werent recorded because his lineage wasn`t in line with the priesthood.
His resemblance to Christ is a result of the way it was recorded in the OT, not due to Melchizedek himself. He was similar to Christ only in the manner in that his preisthood was universal and unending.
No relativity is not biblical because when God gave Noah the measuremnts for the ark he failed to specify a frame of reference, thus if Noah was travelling at relativistic speeds compared to the ark whilst he was building it, it would be subject to Lorentz contraction.
He was an Archangel- perhaps identical with Michael &/or Metatron (HERALD OF THE ALMIGHTY AND VOICE OF THE ONE TRUE GOD!)- that is in the Dead Sea Scrolls. I read a 7th-Day Adventist book that ID’s Mel, Mike & Met all with God the Son aka JC.
There is a Jewish tradition that he was Noah’s son Shem, kinda
traveling incognito, and that he arrested & executed Nimrod, the tyrant who founded Babel.
Or he may have been a God-fearing leader of a not-yet decadent Canaanite community (Salem aka Jebus, later to be Jerusalem).
Damn it, hit the wrong button. Here’s the translation:
[symbol]Apatwr[/symbol] = “without a father”
[symbol]Amhtwr[/symbol] = “without a mother”
[/symbol]agenealoghtos[/symbol] = “without genealogy”
“Without father, without mother, without geneology…” That is the literal word for word translation of that verse. The Peshitta is a fifth century document, btw, and there’s no need to resort to it when we can read the original Greekl for ourselves.
Since Enoch was born he had a belly button. If Enoch became a relativistic Melchizedek then Mel had a belly button.
THE ULTIMATE FRONTIER by Eklal Kueshana
says time in metaphysical reality doesn’t work as it does in physical reality that is what caused me to think of the relativistic relationship. TUF says nothing about Enoch.
The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ by Levi Dowling
says Enoch, Melchizedek and Jesus are the Christs or Avatars of different ages. JC is the Piscean Age Avatar. So another Avatar is due it is the Age of Aquarius.
Hebrews says Jesus Christ was made priest according to the order of Melchizedek. So he may be the same metaphysical entity as Melchizedek. The bodies are irrelevant.
Really.