I really wish she’d get out of the way. She’s just going to clunk up the primary.
I’m voting for Will McBride. I’d vote for Belinda Noah, but she doesn’t have a hope in hell.
I really wish she’d get out of the way. She’s just going to clunk up the primary.
I’m voting for Will McBride. I’d vote for Belinda Noah, but she doesn’t have a hope in hell.
These barbarians mostly live ultra-repressed lives anyway. They’d love to live under a theocratic dictatorship because it would mostly just mean that everybody else would have to be as boring and scared of god as them, like it or not!
This is the part that amazes me. It’s one thing to believe that JESUS wants you to vote for Katherine Harris; it’s another thing to believe something about the founding of the country that’s in such striking contrast to reality. I’m puzzled more by the factual errors than the religious beliefs - did half the country sleep through civics class in high school? How can you convince yourself of something so obviously false like the idea that our country’s founders wanted it to be a “Christian nation” (what, did they just forget to mention it?)? Why is it that Fundamentalist Christianity always seems to be associated with these ridiculous lies?
Plato was right, music should be censored. But the question remains: do we start with Disney’s “It’s a Small World” or the Bay City Rollers :dubious:
I think Katherine Harris needs to sit down and shut up.
So, what do you think the penalty for worshipping false gods ought to be? Which day of the week should people keep holy, Saturday, Sunday, or some other day? What should the penalty be for people who keep the wrong day of the week holy?
And do you agree that Katherine Harris should be barred from public office (since holding public office certainly includes her having authority over men)?
The people you’re talking don’t generally put much trust in what is taught in “government schools.” Note the evolution/creation issue.
-FrL-
Umm… Now, where did I read about those TULIP principles before… NOW I remember! http://www.godhatesfags.com/main/aboutwbc.html
I generally don’t believe in conspiracy theories, but the more I hear from Katherine Harris the more I have to question how much she screwed with the election in 2000. If you think Bush was picked by god then I doubt you would have qualms about doing much anything to ensure he was elected.
I don’t know what is worse: believing what she said, or saying it when she doesn’t believe it. This isn’t some minor issue, or even a larger one that reasonable people can disagree over. She’s not only saying that we should legislate against what (some) Christians consider sin, but that we should not have non-Christians in government. While it’s true that we don’t have a complete separation of Church and state in this country, that is only true in the sense that “Church” is taken to mean a general belief in a diety, not a particular demonination. She wants to tear down the wall between the state and particular denomination. Negatory there, Ms. Harris.
Nice how her office tries to cover her ass:
In other words, pretty much the exact opposite of what she just said.
Well, oddly enough, yeah. Check out Jesus’s denunciations of the Pharisees and scribes. Or this:
Clearly her expressed views contravene the Constitution, and you’d think anyone on the Supreme Court who can understand English would be forced to disqualify her from taking an oath to uphold said Constitution. I don’t see how anyone can think otherwise (feel otherwise, sure, but feelings aren’t relevant).
Somewhat more controversially, her actions would appear to be evil – not evil in the psycho-magical sense of “possessed by Lucifer, a fallen angel”, but evil in the absolute sense of “willing to inflict harm on others, or permit harm to be so inflicted, in order to pursue personal goals”. But the question remains, are her intentions evil?
At this distance, I cannot know her heart. No one can, really. Maybe only God knows.
Without that special knowledge, I’m afraid I only have her words and actions by which to assess her – and I’ll have to conclude accordingly that she’s evil and anti-American.
Sailboat
There’s nothing unconstitutional about her holding those views. It would, however, be unconstitutional to disqualify her for her holding those views. Religious tests work both ways, in case you didn’t know.
Because fundamentalism in general is all about believing ridiculous, impossible things. Consider the fundies who are biblical literalists; they have to ignore the Bible’s many internal contradictions, and justify the many evil acts attributed to God and his followers, especially in the Old Testament. I’ve heard plenty of these people try to justify killing most of humanity in the Flood ( as well as arguing that it was real ), killing the firstborn, and similar evils and craziness. I find it quite easy to believe that people who’ll swallow that will swallow anything, much less something as minor as a little historical revisionism. These are, after all, people who are willing to believe in things are logically impossible, such as a document that contradicts itself like the Bible being absolute, word-for-word truth.
People did not settle this country for freedom of religion. They came where their religion would be the only religion.
The Bible has evolved, and Fundies recognize the truths of Quantum Mechanics. The Bible is invariably inerrant, even though two different experiments (i.e., readings of text) reveal two entirely different results.
Shroedinger’s Cant
What difference does it make? Either way, she’s not the kind of person I want in public office.
Those are pretty standard for a lot of Protestant denominations; the TULIP rules are a summary of John Calvin’s teachings, and he’s obviously a pretty influential figure in Protestant Christianity. It’s no surprise if the WBC teaches it, but it’s not as though it’s a particularly extremist or out there doctrine.
It only makes a difference because the OP was worded to refer to Harris’s actual beliefs. Of course, either way, she shouldn’t be voted into office IMO.
It’s just that I’d like to know whether it’s really true that there are religious crazies in office, or just pretend religious crazies in office. That makes a difference. Real religious crazies I can trust to actually act on crazy religious beliefs–a terrible prospect. Pretend crazies I can trust to packpedal when religious beilefs get in the way of their own political gain–an equally terrible, but still different, prospect.
-FrL-
But even that has no place in the Constitution.