Rep. Katherine Harris Condemns Separation of Church, State

Belinda Noah
I did not know that politicians had started using rendering engines for their promo-photos.

[QUOTE=ivylass]
Watch out how you swing that wide brush.
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Just think of it as making up for the decades the GOP spent on demonizing the words “liberal” and “Democrat”. :smiley:

[QUOTE=Squink]
Belinda Noah
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:confused: This lady ain’t firin’ on all four cylinders.

[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]
:confused: This lady ain’t firin’ on all four cylinders.
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I was referring to Noah, of course.

But if ivylass would seriously consider voting for her, she is likewise a few cans short of a sixpack.

[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]
I was referring to Noah, of course.

But if ivylass would seriously consider voting for her, she is likewise a few cans short of a sixpack.
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Whatever, dude.

As stated above, I’m voting for McBride in the primary. If Harris wins, then I have to go with Choice 2. I’m not a big fan of Noah, either (anyone who used to have their zodiac sign in their campaign website is a bit scary, IMO) and while I am also a proponent of the FairTax, I also don’t get what she means by the quote you posted.

I think McBride has a fair shot at winning the primary, since I think most conservative/Republican voters are in an “Anyone But Harris” mode.

[QUOTE=ivylass]
I think McBride has a fair shot at winning the primary, since I think most conservative/Republican voters are in an “Anyone But Harris” mode.
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Are you sure? She still leads the Pub field in every poll I’ve seen.

Could be. I’m just going off the folks I’ve talked to. Harris might be afraid of McBride, if her little stunt is any indication.

Is Nelson running unopposed?

[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]
Are you sure? She still leads the Pub field in every poll I’ve seen.
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Correct, but who is Sue Cobb supporting in the election?

[QUOTE=ivylass]
Is Nelson running unopposed?
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Apparently. This page lists all the candidates, Dem, Pub and indie, and Nelson is the only Dem listed under “U.S. Senator”.

According to this article, her comments aren’t hurting her among her core constituency.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/state/orl-harris2706aug27,0,6016837.story?coll=orl-news-headlines-state

[QUOTE=RaftPeople]
I’m sorry to hear that, I will pray for you.
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I’ll take care of thinking for him.

[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves]
Even this one? “God is the one who chooses our rulers.”

Guess there’s no need to vote, or even be informed about the issues, then, huh? God will provide.

Oh, wait, she said “rulers” - apparently this notion I’ve always had, that our elected officials are our employees, has been a serious error on my part. The President is our ruler. We can simply dispense with that Constitution stuff whenever it conflicts with our simply carrying out God’s will by obeying His chosen ruler for us, then. Of course, there is *never * any serious misunderstanding about what God’s will is or who He has chosen to *be * our ruler, fortunately for all of us. Whatever bad shit The Ruler makes happen isn’t our employee fucking up and/or being insubordinate, it’s actually God’s will.

Gee, do ya think Harris had that view during the Clinton adminstration? Did you?
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This “philosophy” sure helps explain why she took the steps she did in 2000 to make sure that GWB stole the Florida electoral votes from the godless Al Gore. After all, she was just doing God’s will.

]FriarTed, you realize the contradiction in believing that god picks our leaders, and voting. Why vote if god is going to pick whomever he wants anyway? Think maybe god needs a little help? What happened in 2000? God wasn’t quite up to fixing the election, so he had to have the fundie supremes help out?

Hmm, perhaps a new democratic strategy: Convince fundie morons that god will put Pat Robertson in the White House, so there is no reason to even show up to the polls. Of course, the fundies will have their stock answers ready, “god helps those who helps themselves,” or some such bullshit. If they really believed god picked the leaders they wouldn’t vote.

[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]
If it’s God’s will how an it be that it is thwarted so easily? Kind of a lame-ass God, dontcha think?

Say hello to your brothers in arms.
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Terrific comparison, Contra !

Now, everybody gather 'round for an elementary civics lesson:

Separation of church and state is NECESSARY in a free and democratic society! If laws are passed based on the fundamental tenets of ANY religion, those who do not subscribe to that faith are disenfranchised and, by association, become second-class citizens. The Taliban are only one example. In Israel, there have been incidents of women being stoned by Hasidic Jewish men for daring to pray at the Wailing Wall.

But the biggest bunch of bullshit comes from the Fundie fuckheads. They spout their line of fundamentalist Christianity while simultaneously blaming fundamentalist Islam for all the world’s ills. I’ve got news for you all–the two sides are more alike than either would be willing to acknowledge. Both sides want to make their beliefs the law of the land at the expense of those who would disagree with them.

What do Katharine Harris and Osama bin Laden have in common? They both profess to know what God wants–and they’re equally dangerous!

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Separation of church and state is NECESSARY in a free and democratic society! If laws are passed based on the fundamental tenets of ANY religion, those who do not subscribe to that faith are disenfranchised and, by association, become second-class citizens. The Taliban are only one example. In Israel, there have been incidents of women being stoned by Hasidic Jewish men for daring to pray at the Wailing Wall.

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Bah. This is America. We all know that only Christians are important you fucking terrorist!

-Joe

[QUOTE=want2know]
If laws are passed based on the fundamental tenets of ANY religion, those who do not subscribe to that faith are disenfranchised and, by association, become second-class citizens.
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Quite true. Of course, there is one and only one religion WRT which that outcome would be a good thing! :wink:

Does God pick the rulers of any *other * country? If He picks them all, they should know better than to go kill each other’s people so often, shouldn’t they?

Or maybe only the US is truly anointed among nations, perhaps Israel too given their key role in preparing the Holy Land for the Apocalypse, and all those other Frenchy places are simply damned.

[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]
Quite true. Of course, there is one and only one religion WRT which that outcome would be a good thing! :wink:
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Two, depending on your point of view.

[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves]
Does God pick the rulers of any *other * country? If He picks them all, they should know better than to go kill each other’s people so often, shouldn’t they?
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You are missing the point. God is a Roman. Humans exist to fight for His amusement.

[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]
You are missing the point. God is a Roman. Humans exist to fight for His amusement.
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Dayum – that’s the first explanation of God I’ve ever encountered that actually makes sense.