Republicans and Dems let the gov't shut down on 09/30/25, then what?

Senator Bill Cassidy (R-LA) threw yet one more culture-war log onto the fire atop of that (my ellipsis). Spoken on the floor of the US Senate Monday:

… they walked away from a bill that simply extended the existing budget for seven weeks to allow further negotiation.

Now, they demand a highly partisan bill which would add more than one TRILLION dollars to our national debt.

They want taxpayer-funded health care for illegal immigrants.

Transgender surgery for minors.

And to cut the $50 billion Rural Hospital Fund Republicans created as part of our Working Families Tax Cuts bill.

Americans are left wondering how a shutdown will affect their flood insurance, while Democrats are writing checks to appease the far-Left.

The Housing and Urban Development website has a giant banner on the top claiming: “The Radical Left in Congress shut down the government.”

So much for professionalism.

You gotta trademark that phrase. It’ll come in useful in the next presidential election.

I’ve seen reports that several departments have sent e-mails to their staff with similar phrasing.

A work email auto-reply from some out of work SBA employees:

“I am out of office for the foreseeable future because Senate Democrats voted to block a clean federal funding bill (H.R. 5371), leading to a government shutdown that is preventing the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA) from serving America’s 36 million small businesses,” the out-of-office response read.

This is on several websites.

USDA.gov says “Due to the Radical Left Democrat shutdown, this government website will not be updated during the funding lapse. President Trump has made it clear he wants to keep the government open and support those who feed, fuel, and clothe the American people.”

CDC.gov says “The Trump Administration is working to reopen the government for the American people. Mission-critical activities of CDC will continue during the Democrat-led government shutdown.”

We received one on 9/28, over the name of the head of our Agency, saying:

President Trump opposes a government shutdown, and strongly supports the enactment of H.R. 5371, which is a clean Continuing Resolution to fund the government through November 21, and already passed the U.S. House of Representatives. Unfortunately, Democrats are blocking this Continuing Resolution in the U.S. Senate due to unrelated policy demands. If Congressional Democrats maintain their current posture and refuse to pass a clean Continuing Resolution to keep the government funded before midnight on September 30, 2025, federal appropriated funding will lapse.

The agency has contingency plans in place for executing an orderly shutdown of activities that would be affected by any lapse in appropriations forced by Congressional Democrats. Further information about those plans will be distributed should a lapse occur.

I’m pretty sure I have an obligation to report Hatch Act violations…. :wink:

Remember when we used to have the Hatch Act, and it was actually occasionally enforced?

This is your regular reminder than in a Westminster-style parliamentary system a ruling party that fails to pass a budget must dissolve parliament and call a new election.

The GOP has a majority in both houses of Congress. In no way shape or form is this the fault of the Democrats.

Right. This is MAGA lies and propaganda.

holy shit, that is insane.

Do you think that a vat of boiling sulfuric acid would suffice to dissolve this “government”?

But is it surprising? This is the tone Trump has always set. He can’t even send out a holiday message without shittalking the Democrats, so why would you expect anything different now? The top levels of all these departments are all staffed by bootlickers and sycophants, and they know which pair of boots they should be licking.

Because everything bad is always the Democrats’ fault.

And everything good, even stuff done by Democrats, is always a Republican achievement.


Don’t rub it in.

I’m confused. The bills the Senate have been voting on to fund the Gov’t/prevent a shutdown require 60 votes to pass. If that needs a cite, happy to provide.

What is the route Republicans can take that would only require 50 votes in the Senate?

Compromising.
That will get them 60.

Changing the rules like they did the last time they didn’t want to compromise.

This. Both sides never get what they want and politicians should know that compromise is the way forward. Problem is the right thinks if they yell “dems fault” loudly and often enough, the dems will fold and the right will get everything they want.

Got it. Changing the rules would be permanent then and all future bills like this would only ever require 50 votes to pass. Like what was done when they changed the rules for Judicial nominations. It’s a big change, but I now get they could do it if it was important enough to them.

I thought spending bills only needed 50 but it appears some do, and some don’t. And this is the kind that needs 60.

Let’s try it and see!