Maybe they are just fucking liars who are getting a piece of the action.
Yeah, they could be the evil villains that some people accuse them of being, or just fooling themselves that what’s good for their contributors is good for the country. Until we invent a way to read minds, we’ll never really know.
From your link:
And this is what we’d read: “There’s no mystery why I voted for that law. Some lobbyist wrote me a million dollar check to vote for it so I screwed the voters. The real mystery is why do the voters keep electing me when I keep screwing them like that?”
The problem is, unless you grow up doing that kind of work, there’s no way anyone is physically prepared to even get through one day.
Willful stupidity–stupidity motivated by greed–is evil.
egad, I am about to do something I do not like and defend those I disagree with…
Yes, I agree with you in part. But, it could be argued that the AHCA also played to special interests in that it ingrained us more into the private for profit system and propped that system up with subsidies.
But, where I disagree is that this is not based on principle.
I know this is hard to believe, but there are people out there who do not think healthcare (advanced healthcare) is a human right. They do not think a society has any duty to provide such care and THEIR principles say that someone should get as much healthcare as they can afford.
These people do exist and based on their principles they object to the AHCA. I, personally, have disagreements with some of their assertions, but to wrangle all those opposed to the AHCA into the “no principle” perspective is not fair. (what I mean by some assertions is that I think there must always be limits to a public healthcare option. We cannot pay for everyone for everything, it would bankrupt us).
Many Republicans (Reps) opposed AHCA because it really brought the question forth concerning whether or not the American people felt that healthcare was a right. For years, since the Clintons introduced the idea in the 90’s, people have said there needs more debate.
When the AHCA passed, it opened it all up. Reps opposed it based on principle in many cases. They knew that if the AHCA stood for too long, the American people would begin to frame healthcare as a civil right… something never done before.
That is why they hate Obama so much, he actually pivoted the debate. Now, Reps are on their back heels trying to recover because, against their efforts, Americans now define health care coverage as a right (at least a majority do). Even the the morons who voted for Trump hoping he would bring better healthcare may have been duped enough to vote for Trump, but they STILL think healthcare is a right.
The reps lost the culture war. This is the death spasms we are seeing on this issue.
But, they still have principles some of them are trying to uphold.
I don’t need to read minds to know someone is a dirt bag. I see dirt bags every time I try to watch the news or read the news.
The increases are real enough, blaming it on Obamacare is USDA Grade A Bullshit.
Oh, sure, there are people who think that those who can’t afford health care should die from curable diseases. Just wish they’d step up and say it in so many words.
Bullshit.
Well he sure showed you guys, didn’t he?
You’re right. I don’t believe that. Because I can guarantee they believe in healthcare for themselves. If we were to just surround them with people who have a contagious disease that you die from if you are not treated, they would insist on their right to healthcare.
What they believe is that they themselves are special, and others aren’t. That may be because they can afford things, or something different. But the principle is not that healthcare is not a right. It’s that healthcare is a right only for the deserving, who they happen to be a part of.
And I am perfectly okay with classifying the “Me and mine before everyone else” principle as not a principle at all. It’s just bigotry.
As is thinking that the intention of the AHCA was to fix it. Yes, it has a few provisions that might bring down rates for younger healthy people at the expense of older sicker people, but the bulk of the bill is tax cuts for the rich, pure and simple.
I know health care is complicated and all, but I think the system we have now could be repaired. Bring back the Medicaid expansion and fund the risk corridors so one really sick person can’t distort the market in the entire state. Then lower Medicare eligibility to 55 or 50. That would get a lot of the more expensive patients out of the risk pools and bring down premiums
(Then you still have to find a way to break the bubble of economic distortion that has driven costs sky high, that’s the real challenge). But healthcare is still a better use of taxpayer money than walls or massive corporate tax cuts.
In some sort of weird medieval way the conservative lawmakers may genuinely care for their constituents. But they are coming from a feudal mentality, their idea is to give more money and opportunity to the wealthiest members of society on the theory that they will then be able to turn around and help you.
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I’m one of the people this may hurt if it makes it through the senate, though it’s possible that my state won’t go for the waiver. My son and I both have pre-existing conditions, and I am 3 1/2 years from being able to sign up for Medicare, assuming they don’t raise the age for that.
I don’t think the Republicans are all evil, precisely, I just think they are clueless about what it’s like to struggle to make ends meet. People mostly only “choose” not to buy insurance because they don’t have any money left after paying for food, shelter, child care, heat in winter, transportation to work and such.
It does look like the democrats we will have running for office in 2018 may be talking about Medicare for all by then anyway, especially if this piece of shit makes it through the senate. If most of the effects of this thing don’t show up till after the 2018 election though, this may not work out for them.
It’s this kind of insightful, reasoned response that make Clothy such a valued member of the Dope.
Fuckwit.
And that is the question haunting a few Iowa Trump supporters as they slowly come to their senses.
A local newscaster interviewed Congressman Rod Blum (R), First District in Iowa, and after being asked what the difference was between:
A) Blum only allows those who show ID that show they live in his district to be in his Town Hall meetings – something about you don’t let a non-district voter vote in your district so, no, he doesn’t answer to all of Iowa, just his district.
and
B) The reporter asked if he would accept money from a Republican who lived outside his district (let alone outside the state).
Blum jumped up and was outta there.
That was the older, less evil Republican party. These days that’s a secondary issue; the real core value of the modern Republicans is malice and bigotry.
They want to hurt as many people as possible as much as possible, and persecute or kill anyone who isn’t a white Christian male. The fact that denying people health care will kill them is the point; it’s what the Republicans want, and why they got elected. Their base is so driven by hatred that they are willing to suffer and die, as long as “those people” will suffer and die more.
Cite?