Resume and Job Interview help!

Neither mundane nor pointless, but I must share and ask for help.
I am in the process of updating my resume (just where the heck to the accents go, anyway?), and will be having a job interview sometime later in June. It’s been eight years since I’ve had to do this, so I’m rather rusty. My last job interview, BTW, was with a sort-of family friend, and was more like a pleasant conversation than an actual interview.

Should I put an “objective” on it? I was always taught to do that. Is it still relavant?

Should I keep it to one page? I have enough work history and education that it could spill over to two pages. Is that bad, or is one page better?

How far back should I go with jobs? I could theoretically go back to when I started working (1982) but that seems ridiculous. Ten years? Fifteen?
How much information should I give besides dates worked and contacts?

I have a couple gaps in my work history when I wasn’t working. Once for about a year when my first husband and I were separated, and I moved back in with my mother and babysat for some friends and again when my son was born and I was a stay-at-home mom for two years. Should I address these gaps on my resume or just leave it?

Stupid question: What about an address for a company that has moved? Should I put the new address or the old one where I worked?

What about for a company that is no longer in business? I worked there years ago and have no idea where any of the people I worked with are now. There’s no way to contact anyone for a reference.

Interviews - I can’t even remember what they’re like.
Why do you want this job? What’s a good answer?
Tell us about yourself. I always hated this question.
Tell us your strengths and weaknesses. Hated this one, too. What’s a good way to answer it?

One thing. I’m a bit older than many of the applicants. I’m 41, and while there will be others my age, most of the applicants will be in their early 20s or so. How can I carefully emphasize that my age won’t be detrimental?

One more thing - a few of the ‘right people’ have offered to write letters of recommendation for me, which is a big plus in this area. It’s a big “It’s not what you know, it’s who you know (or who you blow)” kind of thing.
I have a formal given name, which I use for stuff like ID cards and my resume, but I go by a nickname that these people all know me by, and I assume they’re going to use for the letters. Would it be terrible to write “Formalname (Nickname) Lastname” on the resume?

Anything else that would be helpful would be most appreciated!

Wow, lots of questions!

I would go back three jobs or ten years, whichever is greater. It doesn’t make sense to list the job you held part time in high school if it’s not relevant to the job you want now.

I would go by your formal name, then when you go in for the interview, say, “Hi, Mr. Future Boss, nice to meet you. Call me [nickname].”

List the jobs only. You can explain “gaps” during the interview, or cover them briefly in the cover letter.

If the company has moved, list the new address.

If the company has gone out of business and wasn’t a recent job, I would leave it off.

Why do you want this job? I don’t know, why do you want it? Answer this one truthfully. Are you looking to spread your wings? Are you changing careers? Are you getting back in the workforce?

Tell us about yourself? Speaking as someone who has conducted interviews, I can tell you from my standpoint the answer isn’t really as relevant as how you present yourself. I could care less that you graduated with a 4.0 GPA. I want to know if you can articulate, if you come across as intelligent, and don’t use a bunch of “ums” and “ers” and “dudes, you know, like.” Some nervousness is to be expected, but I was turned off my one applicant who told me she made t-shirts that were a play on “Hello Kitty” only she used “Hello Titties.” :dubious:

Strengths and weakensses: Fast learner, hate to be bored, etc. We want to know if you will fit in.

One of my tricks when applying for jobs was to ask a lot of questions, and not about perks and benefits. Find out what the repsonsibilities are, if there is room for growth, ask for a tour of the facility if the interviewer has time. When we were down to two choices, we picked the applicant who wanted “this” job over the applicant who wanted “any” job.

So many questions! I’m in the hiring mode right now, so I can only pass on what I look for in a resume and candidate.
**Objective on resume? ** Sure, why not, but make sure it matches the job you’re interviewing for. You can’t believe the number of resumes I get with objectives that are not even close to the mark. Just a waste of postage and time.
One page resume? Not essential, but don’t add a lot of fluff either. But shorter is generally better.
**Employment history? ** Just list jobs since getting out of school, but be prepared to explain gaps. No need to put it in writing in the resume.
**Former company contact info? ** Just put down the last known info you have. If you are offering someone as a reference, you should provide accurate contact info. However, don’t offer your references unless you are asked to do so. And, of course, warn your reference about a possible call.
**Interview? ** You should be prepared with answers to all the usual questions. I hate it when a candidate can’t come up with a coherent answer to basic questions like “Where do you want to be, careerwise, in 3 years?” The most important piece of advice I’d give you for the interview is to be a good listener. Listen carefully and answer the question that’s posed. Don’t give a non-answer or the answer to another question. And don’t talk too much, which is a tendency for some people when they’re nervous. Act like you are interviewing the company as much as they are interviewing you. Take notes. If you are still interested in the job after the interview, follow up with a phone call or email. That’s what I like.

There are a number of theories on resumes, but they all come down to the best way to get an interview in the first place.

I think the “Objective:” part is BS and best left off.

The best advice I got was to have a one-page resume that lists accomplishments, to serve as an advertisement to get potential employers to ask for more information, at which time you have the second full resume that has job history. The former contains things like “Designed and implemented a mutual funds accounting system,” while the latter includes “1990 - 1998: XYZ Investments, Inc., New York, NY. Primary Design Analyst, Mutual Funds Team,” and is in chronological order, most recent job first. It can be two or even three pages long, and would also include the types of tools, processes, software, or whatever that you are skilled in using.

The one-page ad would contain the most important or attention-getting items first. Use a large font, no less than 12 point. Put your name, address, phone & email at the top, not “Resume.”

Don’t bother with fancy paper , cover sheets, binders, or any other time-wasters, on either one. These days a lot of resume submission is done on-line anyway. Just be absolutely sure that there is not the slightest typo, misspelling, or any other easily-seen error on it. I have seen resumes get tossed directly into the circular file because of a single punctuation or spelling error, on the theory that if you don’t care enough to do your best in your own interest, you will be even more careless on the job.

If there are gaps in your work experience, don’t mention it. If the rest is good enough to get you an interview, be prepared with a positive explanation for the time. “I chose to stay home with my children/devote time to my family/explore volunteer activities/pursue further education.” Unless the real reason was that you were in jail, most employers won’t care.

Go back as far as necessary with employment history, but only go into detail with related work experience, especially recent work. Include significant projects, assignments, accomplishments. For anything really early, or completely unrelated, you can add something at the end such as “Five years experience teaching Art History.” Do not include flipping burgers during high school and college.

Put down the last known city and state of the companies that are out of business. If/When you get the interview, you can always comment that they are no longer extant.

References: Do NOT put “References available upon request” on your resume. Do not list them, either. I would not suggest carrying a letter of recommendation with you. That suggests that it was written with your input. If/When you get to the point where references are asked for, provide contact information for the people who are offering. Have a separate piece of paper with you so that when you are asked, at the interview, you can just pull out that envelope and hand it over. Even better, presuming that these are folks in the know, they could help by actually making some contacts for you by contacting others in a position to hire you before you even go there. When I was in a position to do hiring, if a current employee, or someone I knew well, contacted me with info about a person they could recommend, I always gave that person top priority.

If the nickname is easily deduced from your real name, (Eddie vs. Edward) use “Edward” on everything. If a reference says “Eddie” it will be understood. Also, as indicated above, you should not have the letters pre-written. The process should work such that the potential employer is contacting the reference. So if they call or write to ask about “Fauntleroy Higginson” and the reference responds with a letter about “Leroy” or “Buddy” Higginson, it should be able to be understood who the reference is speaking of. (Or, seeing as to how you mentioned a husband, perhaps that should be “Gertie vs. Gertrude” and “Dorothea Higginson” vs. “Thea” or “Dolly.” )

Do not under any circumstances mention your age. It is presumably illegal to discriminate against you because of age, but you can never prove it one way or the other unless some idiot actually admits to it. Some experts recommend leaving anything that could possibly cause your age to be deduced off the initial one-page resume. For example, if you mention that you graduated from high school in a particular year, it’s obvious that you were about 17 or 18 at the time, and one is presumed to have graduated college in one’s early 20s. You can certainly make a list of your accomplishments, and add that you have an MA in economics from Yale without giving the date of graduation.

When you get the interview, or are otherwise asked for more details, you can provide the full resume, which includes dates of employment. You might be asked for college info so that they can verify that you are not lying. At some point it will become obvious that you are not 25 years old, but there is no point in making this obvious in the beginning. Do not provide any family or other personal information on your resume unless it is somehow relevant to the job.

Regarding age, you want to create the impression of maturity, dependability, a proven work record, etc. If the opportunity presents, for example, if there is a question about overtime, or work hours, you might be able to work in that your children are grown up now and that you don’t have to rush home to get anyone at daycare.

A disclaimer: I acquired these and other suggestions during 8 long months of resumes and interviews since last July. I finally landed a job via taking a temp position that worked into permanent full time. My resume WAS successful, though, in getting me quite a few interviews. I was told by several potential employers that it was “impressive.” Unfortunately, they all also told me that I was either (a) overqualified or (b) underqualified.

Okay, sorry I started this and never came back. I know that’s Very Bad Doper Behavior.
It’s been a crazy time. Today was my last day at work for the summer (I’m a teacher), my daughter is graduating, and my husband is switching jobs, too.

First off, this is a county job I’m applying for - I’m applying to be an EMT, so I’ve had to give them copies of my driver’s license and EMT card with my application, plus a copy of a physical from my doctor, so they already know how old I am. They don’t need to ask. Yes, it’a illegal to ask (and discriminate), but it’s a very physically demanding job with long hours, and I don’t want them to think I can’t hack it. (I’m already an EMT with a volunteer company, but the county is actively recruiting right now to fill 20 spots)

References - I have to provide at least three (so much for not giving them until being asked), and as I said, this is a very tough job to get into. There’s a definite angle of “It’s not what you know, it’s who you know” to it. I have three people lined up who have offered to write or provide references for me who are ‘connected’ if you know what I mean - they will go a long way towards me getting in. Two are people who encouraged me to apply in the first place. They said the county needed people like me, and talked me into taking the written test.

I was polishing up my resume tonight, and have decided to dump the ‘objective.’
I listed all my education, and went back 12 years with jobs. It looks pretty good - I’m satisfied with it. I’m just nervous about the interview, if I get that far.
My nickname is not easily deduced from my ‘real’ name, so I’m still thinking I will go with Realname (Nickname) Lastname on the resume. I’m not thrilled with how it looks, but it’ll be okay.

There were about 1,800 people who took the written test. (I passed with an 88!) The next step is the physical aglility test (we have a practice session Saturday and next weekend) and after that we get called for interviews.
There are 20 openings. Wish me luck.

Good luck! Can your references give you any hints on how to handle the interview?

Personally, I like for candidates to answer questions as thoroughly as possible and show me that they can apply outside experience to the job they’ll be doing in my department. (We do a lot of systems projects.) We had a candidate for an entry-level business analyst position who had no formal training, but was able to use a home improvement project he’d completed to illustrate his approach to projects. That was exactly the type of thinking we were looking for. Maybe some of your connections can tell you the types of answers or approaches that will impress interviewers.

GT

Yes, they have, and I really appreciate their help*. I’ve been talking to them and picking their brains for weeks. Two have been quite helpful, and one just keeps saying, “Be yourself, you’ll be fine” which just makes me nervous and feel like I’m going to barf.

I knew we had a couple of job-interview type pros here on the Board, and I just wanted to get some outside opinions, too.

  • IOW, my head is so far up their asses, I can see what they ate for lunch. :wink:
    :smiley:

Sounds like you’re doing all the right stuff… I think that especially with government jobs (I work for the state and know a lot of other public employees), you want to make sure you know what the specific employer considers appropriate interview behavior. It can get pretty quirky.

GT

Don’t include your missing years as an erstwhile go-go dancer.

I’m sure you’ve already though of it, but I have just one suggestion - if you put an e-mail address on your resume/application, make sure you have one that sounds professional. My boss once received a resume and the applicant listed “2sexy4u@whateveremail.com”. My boss discounted her based on that, figuring if she was that unprofessional when she was applying for a job, presumably trying to impress, she probably would be even less professional when she got the job. So anything like “Iheartkittens” or “Ieatkittens” would probably be a bad idea.

StG

I thought it would be prudent to leave off all those years I spent on The Block. :smiley:

StGermain, yes, I already thought of that. While I don’t have an email like “2sexy4you@hotstuff” I plan on using the one that’s just my last name and the year my husband and I got married. Considering the pool of applicants, you’re right - there will be a lot of dunderheads who think it’s funny to have “Hotfirestud@yahoo” or “SexyEMTchick” or something along those lines. :rolleyes:

I say no. Everyone knows your objective is to get a job using your talents, etc. Put your objective in the cover letter.

Two pages isn’t bad. I wouldn’t even scream over 3. More than that is too much. I try to bold the key words that the HR person is scanning for. Make it easy to pick your resume out of the bunch.

I put all relevant work history on my resume. Nothing before 1989 because that is when I started in this career. However, I reduce the older jobs to one or two sentences.

Leave it. If they want to know, they’ll ask in the interview.

I don’t put any address on mine. Save the addresses for when they ask for references. I put sentence on the bottom that says: References available upon request.

Why do you want the job? Because this kind of work interests you and excites you. Tell 'em why you still find it exciting after all this time in the field.
Tell me about yourself: Tell them some history of how you got excited about the field.
Stengths and weaknesses: You know your strengths, I can’t help you. Weaknesses, don’t go for the cheezie: I work too hard, or I don’t know when to quit. Pick one of your lesser weaknesses and explain it and explain how you are working to correct it. “I sometimes tend to procrastinate the things I hate doing. To counter that I have started a day planner and I prioritize. I am trying to make it a habit to make sure I get the top things off the list daily, even if I hate it.”
I have no problem with the nickname on the resume. References are a great way to bump your chances.

During the interview, smile as much as possible. Everyone instinctively likes people more who are happy.