Reverend ?

Went out for a walk the last night, found myself next to Grace Cathedral (at the top of Nob Hill in San Francisco), noticed on the directory that the Right Reverend so and so and the Very Reverend such and such were presiding over various events. What are the meanings of these titles? How does plain old Reverend and Pastor fit into them? And where does that leave me, an agnostic, in that set up? :confused:

“If we would have new knowledge,
we must get a world of new questions”

It leaves you wandering and confused, looking at cars parked nose in and wondering what would happen to them in an earthquake. :smiley:
Peace,
mangeorge


I only know two things;
I know what I need to know
And
I know what I want to know
Mangeorge, 2000

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  • Rick

On a slight tangent…

I grew up in a Christian Church. (As opposed to a Christian church. Closely related to the Church of Christ and the Disciples of Christ.) They make it a point to not call their ministers “reverend” or “father”. The reasoning is that these are titles that elevate these people to levels above the rest of us mere mortals. “Minister” is the excepted title of these denominations.


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Grew up Baptist, “Pastor” is the title there.

As I just pointed out on another thread, “Reverend” isn’t a title at all. It falls into the same class as “Honorable”, to be used with a title or a full name. Most Protestants (and most Americans) get it wrong, though.

The details of what “reverend” goes with what office/rank/degree vary from church to church, but, on the whole, the upward progression is:

Reverend
Very Reverend
Right Reverend
Most Reverend

In Anglicanism, “Venerable” goes between “Reverend” and “Very Reverend”. (In RCism, on the other hand, “Venerable” is a step on the path up to “Saint”.)


John W. Kennedy
“Compact is becoming contract; man only earns and pays.”
– Charles Williams

Venerable is, IIRC, the appropriate epithet for an Archdeacon in both Anglican and Roman usage. However, it is also (and far more commonly) used for a dead person who has been “Beatified” but not “Canonized” (the ranks for sainthood) in the Roman Catholic Church.

I mean, when is the last time you had occasion to address an Archdeacon formally?

Minor note: The proper usage here has been dealt with on other threads, but to quickly reiterate…

  1. Reverend goes with full names or with title and surname. He is the “Reverend John Jones” or the “Rev. Mr. Jones” not “Rev-rund Jones”
  2. Proper written usage includes the “The” at the beginning. If addressing a letter to the Bishop of Assboink, it would be
    >>>The Rt. Rev. Hubert Coldfire
    >>>Bishop of Assboink
    >>>St. Swithin’s Cathedral
    >>>199 Flathead Road
    >>>Assboink, ID 89199