What do you think happens if you open a car door under water? You think some water might get in?
You believe in psychic phenomena then? Otherwise what kind of magicks are you using to read my mind?
What am I doing that’s against the rules? It was actually ruled by the mods that I wasn’t breaking the rules.
You can’t open the car door until the pressure equalizes - so if you open the door, it means that either there’s no air in the car or it isn’t underwater.
I’m not an expert but…yeah, I think so.
I mean in all fairness I am certain that there was SOME air trapped inside the car. I can say however with 100% certainty that it was not enough for her to survive.
Then he rolled down, or I should say up, the window. Bottom line, there was a Ted Kennedy sized hole somewhere in that car.
Great, then that’s settled. There was no hope of rescue. She was dead before he ever left the scene.
What Laura Bush did was only superficially similar. It’s a stupid comparison. You are absolutely right about George W. Bush, he’s a total prick for doing that.
That’s fair.
This isn’t a universal rebuttal to any poor choice a liberal makes.
Still sad.
Sure. Drunk driving was a misdemeanor then.
Maybe it’s the fact that the diver who recovered her body thought she could have survived for a significant period of time breathing trapped air.
Cite?
Second to last paragraph, this is an archived story from Sept 1969
Both committed a misdemeanor (as noted in this thread, DUI was only a misdemeanor at the time) while driving and someone ended up dead as a direct result. I’d say that’s a lot more than superficially similar.
Or if a window was open. Which it most likely was. Since this was August of 1969, I think we can assume there wasn’t any AC.
To clarify, you can open the door if you do it pretty much as you hit the water (waiting until the water level got over the ankles was too high, IIRC), or if you wait until the water level inside the car matches that outside. Same with the window - the pressure on the glass is huge, and in testing they broke the mechanism in the door with the force involved with trying to move it and weren’t able to budge the window early. My wild-ass guesses would include that he had his window down, or that he managed to conserve enough oxygen to be able to wait until the car equalized. The latter would pretty much mean there was little or no air left, and you’re talking about two people with injuries trying to remain calm and save their own respective hides, windows open or not.
I read about her being possibly pressed “where an air bubble would have formed” and at that point, if she was able to survive long enough to press up into an air bubble that might or might not have been present, it’s strange that she wouldn’t then just have opened the non-pressurized door and gotten out. I would unscientifically guess that a floating corpse might go to the high point in a car, which is where an air bubble might go as well.
This sounds like pure speculation by the diver. He was speculating that there might have been an air bubble, I guess since being a diver makes you an expert on aquatic physics and crash reconstruction.
I don’t know. I think being a teenager who just learned to drive is a better excuse than being an adult who should have known better. YMMV but you’re right the culture of the time was probably that driving home drunk was no big deal, I am sure the cars going over that bridge probably had drunk drivers as often as not after dark.
Laura Bush went through a stop sign.
She wasn’t drunk tested, so we don’t know what her BAC was.
ETA and just for the record, there’s no proof that Ted Kennedy was drunk either.
Still, teenager, adult, teenager, adult, teenager, adult. Kennedy was old enough to be Laura’s Father in terms of the age differential. I really don’t think it’s hypocritical to judge kids by different standards from adults.
While I think her husband was the worst President ever I can’t find it in myself to muster up animosity for her.
So? Later in life Kennedy got old enough to be his own father at the time of the accident and people still brought up the drowned chick.
Teenager, adult, teenager, adult, teenager, adult, teenager, adult.
Do I need to explain further?
Also, didn’t flee the scene.
Upside down in the car after it went off a bridge? Richard Hammond on Top Gear pretty much died when they dropped his car into water, right side up.